Need advice, assisting the new Populous Club

[GR bomb]

Hi there,

Being totally obsessed with Populous at the moment, i have decided to offer my services as the Deputy Club Captain of the new Populous club. I was wondering if some experienced CC's could answer a few questions....???

By the way, if you'd prefer, you can e-mail me at gr.bomb@btinternet.com

First of all, what measures do we have to control abusive people like Juventus? This surely has to be the No.1 priority (i will be helping out in running the tourny's etc etc) so that we can make sure people won't be discouraged from joining the club.

Also, how exactly do the tourny's work? I've never actually been to one (i confess to spending a lot of my time on Quake 2)? Can someone explain it to me?

Cop, you were voted person of the year on Wireplay... Any advice? http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

How can you get the results from the game, other than from the people that played it? I am concerned that a bad loser may refuse to co-operate, and lie about the result. The Printscreen key would come in handy here, but this being Direct X, the output is not what it should be sometimes....

Phew, well i'll leave it at that for now then... Thanks!

GR-Bomb

[VELVET]

Wow - ask the unanswerable why don't you http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Unfortunately there aren't that many controls in place to get rid of abusive users... NIT should have or be getting a password which will allow him to phone up WirePlay helpdesk and get an alias kicked - but thats about it for now...

Your best bet is to go to a couple of tournys and see what they do... Some run a league type tourny but most do a knock-out... A knock-out might not be so good for Populous because the games have the potential to take a long time - but I'll leave that up to you http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

There aren't many ways to get the results from the game - you normally have to trust the people in it... We've always gone for screen shots and/or official refs in matches with newbies or potential trouble makers...

Hope this is of some help...

VELVET (Legal Crime CC, Poker Club Deputy)

[Stamper]

In all my time of entering tourneys i have only ever seen 1 arguement over the score.
Apart from that as the clubs progress, players don't take losing so badly and don't complain when they lose. Luckily we have the ability to take screanshots which is useful but a tad annoying when every now and again you remeber to check the folder which you keep the screanshots in and they amount to over 200mb.

[VELVET]

Another little thought - make sure all club officials turn up on prize nights as thats when most arguments break out...

[Hog]

Erm, GR Bomb, Nit is supposed to run the club, thats why he gets a free sub and money back. He is also an experienced captain, so he should be able to answer all those questions for you. I found when helping run the red alert club, the key was communication. Try ringing each other and talking about what needs doing. Sounds daft I know, but its much better to talk (sound like BT there http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif) as you'll get more info, and can bounce ideas about. Or are you telling us, that the deputy is going to run this club?

[GR bomb]

Well i was mainly interested in the power we have to prevent idiots from ruining things, because i know this has been an on-going topic here on the message boards...

Wireplay? Care to update us on this?

GR-Bomb

[Athanateus]

Okay, how to get rid of abuse players...

... we are still working on it.

Can't say too much at the moment because there is a lot of thought going into this and we don't want to predudice stuff thats already going on - we will keep you updated.

In the meantime, if you have repeat offenders give James a call and he will be happy to help.

Oscar

[COPcc]

Hi all,

can't really comment on how you should run a touney this varies so much from game to game...leagues,knockouts etc really depends which way you want to go...

abusive players-where do i start ...wp will soon sort this out until then the best bet is try to ignore them and not get wound up...you, losing your temper and giving it them back won't help....try to talk
them round to your way of thinking and many of these abusive players can become good friends eventually and enter numerous tourneys in the future

once you get a following then these players will help you police the club and snub troublesome players and make it difficult for them to get into games using the same alisas they caused probs with in tourneys...

there are many good ppl on wp and only a few idiots so stick with it m8 http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

[GR bomb]

Thanks Cop, that's a good point. I have quite a lot of control over my temper (i think!) and i guess if i try to reason with potential idiots it may never happen.

Of course, people like Juventus (i've met him, so i know what he's like) can't be reasoned with...

Thanks for the advice!
GR-Bomb

[GR bomb]

Oh eh, by the way Oscar, who's James???

Told you i was new at this... *grin*

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

Best advice that, "take no ****", you sometimes have to make tuff decisions but you learn the hang of that. Just make sure Nit has sorted the rules out well b4 any tourny and all players know them. Do not try to make it up as you go along..... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif
I agreewith what COP sez about idiots, but dont take any more abuse than neccassary, warn em, squelch em then get WP in.ANd make sure no one in the prop gets involved in a slanging match with them, it makes it worse http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Whens the first tourny then??

[VELVET]

James = James Kaye = Uprising = WirePlays club co-ordinator...

[GR bomb]

Hog m8, we're still sorting out the rules to make sure it's nice and fair (we are almost definatly going to keep Volcano disabled and maybe Angle of Death too, they are just too destructive) so it'll be a while yet.

Hope to get things all sorted soon.

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

Oh No!! Not volcano!! Its my fav spell!!
Oh well <sniff> http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Dont forget armegeddon then, but there again, why disallow anything? Its all about management anyhow and you need games to finish fairly fast anyhow dont ya? Apart from arma, none of em are game winning on their own are they?
Also, just a point, Nitman has been in charge of this club since december, are you telling me he STILL isnt sorted out? tsk. Tell him to get his arse in gear, there are loads of us waiting for this club to be up and running and he knows what to do. http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Hog (edited 07-01-99).]

[GR bomb]

Well Hog think about it... Shamen attack via balloon, quicly nips in and casts volcano in the centre of the camp.

Bingo, it's pretty much a lot cause for the player that just got hit.

As for Nitman, i've only just got involved so i'm not entirely sure what's what just yet, but the website at the moment is pretty much there but incomplete. So he's still trying to set the ground rules and stuff...

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

Erm GR, you played much? I spent a game with Jammy where both bases took and lasted through about 3 Volcanoes each. I think your maybe missing the point, the key is to STOP the other shamen getting into your base in the first place isnt it?
Hmm, I may start a "We want the Volcano" campaign http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Serious point is, its about defence as well as attack isnt it? If I can destroy you with one volcano spell, you deserve to be the loser. But thats just my opinion...... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif

[GR bomb]

Yeah that's a point, BUT

Shaman lightning bolts can pretty easilly outshoot Firewarriors in towers, and all it takes is some small troops to keep the main defense preocupied, and the shaman can (as i said) nip in, cast it, then nip out.

And i HAVE played it lots, and confess to having done that many a time for an easy win.

But don't start your campaign yet because we might keep it in you never know... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Oh, and a volcano does little damage if you cast it in a stupid place of course, but if cast in the centre of a group of huts will seriously damage the huts and probably kill all the housed bravemen... Anyway, i'll have to play it lot's to see if it's feasable to keep that shaman out... I personally have no problem in getting my shaman deep inside the base!

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

We need to play each other I think http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
I can assure you that you will NOT get an easy entrance into my base for a volcano spell, you only get, what, 4 lighting stikes? I normally have a lot more Watch towers up wit hfire warriors in them so your shamen is going to pay. Hang on, I am giving tips away here DOH! Lemme know when you want a game cos it would be nice to play some one that would put up a fight. Oh yer, what do you think about forge world option? Can be fun that one.... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

[GR bomb]

I LOVE Forge World!!!!

It's so cool, but i know some who don't like it (proabably cos they fuc*ed up their starting postion by accident... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif )

I for one am totally guilty of RUNNING OUT OF WOOD because of all those Guard Towers i plonk at every entrance to my base...

I played a Pop newbie last night... Poor basterd had about 1 Guard tower and 3 Brave huts by the time i had a balloon and a volcano spell....

He had a go at me for being "no fun"... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Well, you have my e-mail address, gr.bomb@btinternet.com

Mail me when your free to play (pref on weekends...)

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

Great, I am free all weekend so its a date http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

[GR bomb]

Hey Hog, can you make Sunday? I'm out Saturday... Doing what i do best...

GR-Bomb

[Hog]

Yer no probs, so what do you do best? I hope it involves beer..... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif