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Angel
14-09-1999, 19:07
NOTE: This is a blatent nabbing of OblivionSeeker's post on the TFC board [if you're reading this m8 I hope you don't mind but this has been bringing a fair bit of arguement to this board recently, thought I'd try and settle it]. <<


This from today's IT week:-

"BT plans to price its high-bandwidth ADSL services well out of the reach of the consumer market,pushing back the possibility of permanently connected consumers and e-commerce ubiquity by many years.
For more than 12 months BT has been trialising ADSL, the technology capable of providing Internet connection at speeds well beyond 6 Mbits/s using standard phone lines.

BT is set to charge ISPs £260 for each user plus an annual line rental from £14,000 to £68,600, depending on the connection speed. ISPs will also pay an initial connection charge of up to £15000. At these prices, ISPs will have to resell the service to consumers at around £200 per moth for a modem-class 50kbit/s link."

Also in the mag, comments section:-

"This is not a full service, this is a trial, so BT retains the rights to all data generated by the running of the service. Want to try a new business model? Plan to offer something special? BT will presumably demand all the details, and can use them however it likes - and in case you haven't noticed, BT runs an ISP."

"...BT will take up to 40 working days to connect you at 2 Mbit/s...."

"....it's hard to escape the conclusion that this isn't a service that BT wants ISPs to sell. It's a holding operation, mirroring the infinitely painful and frustrating way BT reluctantly allowed ISDN to escape onto the market, and for the same reasons. With no competition and billions of pounds of call
revenues from dial-up internet access, BT is in no hurry to make this thing work. Commercially it's understandable, even if it's damaging to us. But when BT claims that it's being advanced and consumerist in its thinking, anger is the only rational reaction."

FACT: until they are forced by OFTEL to relinquish rights to the public network in 2001, something which should have been done at least five years ago, BT will continue to monopolise the communications market in this nation. It's another way in which BT can soak the consumers dry before it no longer holds the trump card (public net), suffocate the rest of the market and make the UK fall further behind the rest of the technological world. >>

Well done to OblivionSeeker for digging this up for us (the TFC community anyways).

Angel

Baxter2000
18-09-1999, 00:43
I heard that ADSL was £30-£40 a month and that you paid the money to your ISP?

Whats going on?

[LTD-DWC] Baxter

Tristan
18-09-1999, 09:50
Ok, all who have changed their minds about ADSL and want a cable modem, form a line.

*imagine a line as long as the eye can see*

I could put you all in for the world record longest queue http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif

Want to see my artists impression of what the queue would look like...

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(they aren't 'i's there people)




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Well, thats what I think anyway....



[This message has been edited by Tristan (edited 18-09-1999).]

Fragchild
18-09-1999, 13:36
£40-£200/month was the retail price to isp's its then up to them to decide how much to charge you.Most likely a lot more.

Barbette
18-09-1999, 15:31
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that BT have just shot themselves in the foot?

They have failed to learn a lesson from ISDN and priced themselves out of the marked again. No one will bother with ASDL until 2001, and then no one will use BT.

We could be witnessing the start of the end for BT, they are avaiding ASDL because they have invested too much in ISDN and want to keep it viable, but in the prosess and making the same mistake and loosing out on the next market.

OFTEL are already investigating BT, this is just more amuntion against them. We may have to wait, but ASDL may be the stone David uses against BT#s Goliath

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embattle
18-09-1999, 20:14
Have a look at this http://www.theregister.co.uk/990915-000028.html b4 you say more.

Matrix
18-09-1999, 23:52
cable is cheaper and more reliable, so why bother with ADSL crap.
oh, BTW, the french get cable modems 4 free as long as they pay the 250franc (bout £25) monthly fee.
and it runs at 2mbps
us brits are being ripped again http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif

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mikkyT
21-09-1999, 11:00
NTL offer cable modem for £40

This is 24/7 connection - ie free as long as you pay £40 a month...
http://www.ntl.co.uk/cablemodems/hispeed/default.asp

ANd I might add that FREESERVE ARE THE FIRST ISP TO OFFER ADSL!!! www.freeserve.co.uk (http://www.freeserve.co.uk)

The link is on their main page and I think it will be around the £50 pounds mark...