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Hi all,
I've got a ASUS-ISDN PCI 128K ISDN Adaptor without Analogue
card and Home Highway. I would like to be able to dial in to my comp through a modem connection but have no idea if the ASUS card will connect or how to do it :confused:
Anybody able to help with this one?
Calzor Suzay
03-08-2000, 15:36
You can't dial into an ISDN card from an analogue modem, the ISDN is digital the modem analogue so it's like ones talking Dutch and the other Russian it just ain't gonna happen :E
You need the same both ends or an ISDN cards with built-in modem support or an RJ11 socket which is the very small plug that then plugs into the phone socket like your modem.
Unfortunately I think your out of luck :(
Ah well.......
looks like i'm just gonna have to keep using my modem for direct dial playing, but thanks for the help :)
Well actually that isn't 100% true. The Wireplay/BT Internet servers have both modem and ISDN spools but you can connect either to either. For example you could use your modem to dial into the ISDN spool or an ISDN line to dial into a modem spool. It all depends on the TA you have installed.
I have a WIN2k box here with an old IX1-mirco TA card and I can dial into my WIN2k server using a modem.
Im not sure about the ASUS tho (I have 2x ASUS cards at home and no modem so I always go ISDN -> ISDN) so I can't really test it.
Calzor Suzay
04-08-2000, 11:25
When you connect to the Wireplay/BT internet servers on your ISDN calling the modem number does it then not connect at 64k or 128k? If so it's just merely redirected you to an ISDN TA or as an ISP they have sophisticated equipment that can accept either and the different phone lines aren't really needed. I know at work we have a RAS server and whether your on ISDN or a modem you call the same range of numbers and then the TA box on the firewall translates it all.
It seems your old IX1-mirco TA card can indeed accept incoming phone calls but I think the key word here is old, legacy ISDN products had to support many standards a while back or noone bought them because they where too restrictive, nowadays to keep cost down internal ISDN cards tend to be ISDN only but the quality of the Asus card it may well be kept in judgeing from the specs (http://www.solwise.co.uk/isdnspec.htm) of the card.
Wally you might want to try calling the ISDN pc from your modem pc to see if it works but you'll need to setup RAS (Remote access service) on the ISDN PC, I know Ntv4 & Win2k can act as RAS servers but not sure about 95/98x.
How to Enable Dial-Up Networking Server Capabilities
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The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows 95
Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95
Microsoft Windows 98
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SUMMARY
The Dial-Up Networking Server component in Microsoft Plus! lets you share network resources with others who connect to your computer from remote locations. This article describes how to configure your computer to be a Dial-Up Networking server or client.
MORE INFORMATION
There are five steps in configuring your computer to use Dial-Up Networking. These steps are:
Configure your computer's modem
Install the Dial-Up Networking and Dial-Up Networking Server components
Configure your computers' network properties
Enable the server
Dial a server (for client connection)
Configuring Your Computer's Modem
To install and configure a modem, follow the manufacturer's installation instructions included with your modem.
Install the Dial-Up Networking and Dial-Up Networking Server Components
To install the Dial-Up Networking component, follow these steps:
Double-click My Computer.
If there is a Dial-Up Networking folder in My Computer, Dial-Up Networking is already installed. Skip to the "To install the Dial-Up Networking Server component" section. If there is no Dial-Up Networking folder, continue with these steps.
In Control Panel, double-click the Add/Remove Programs tool.
On the Windows Setup tab, click Communications in the Components box, and then click Details.
Click the Dial-Up Networking check box to select it, and then click OK.
Click OK.
To install the Dial-Up Networking Server component, follow these steps:
Windows 95:
NOTE: These steps assume that you have already installed Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95.
In Control Panel, double-click the Add/Remove Programs tool.
On the Install/Uninstall tab, click Microsoft Plus! For Windows 95, and then click Add/Remove.
Click Add/Remove.
Click the Dial-Up Networking Server check box to select it, and then click Continue.
Windows 98:
In Control Panel, double-click the Add/Remove Programs tool.
On the Windows Setup tab, double-click Communications.
Click the Dial-Up Networking Server check box to select it, and then click OK.
Configuring Your Computers' Network Properties
To share resources using Dial-Up Networking, both computers need to use the following network components:
Client for Microsoft Networks
Dial-Up Adapter
A network protocol that is common to both computers
The common protocol can be either NetBEUI or IPX/SPX-compatible.
In addition, File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks must be enabled on the computer that is to be the server. To verify that this is enabled, click File And Printer Sharing in Network properties.
Network Settings:
To make sure your computers are using the proper network settings, follow these steps:
In Control Panel, double-click the Network tool.
Examine the list of installed network components. If any of the necessary components listed above are not installed, click Add to install them.
Computer Name:
After the necessary components are installed, click the Identification tab and verify that the computer name is valid. It must be a unique name that is no more than 14 characters long and does not contain spaces or any of the following characters: / \ * , . ". Make sure that the workgroup name is the same on both computers.
Enable the Server
To configure a computer to be a Dial-Up Networking server, follow these steps:
In My Computer, double-click the Dial-Up Networking folder.
On the Connections menu, click Dial-Up Server.
Click Allow Caller Access.
If you want to require remote users to enter a password when they connect to your computer using Dial-Up Networking, click Change Password and enter the password you want to use.
Click OK.
To allow others to use resources on your computer, you must share those resources. For information about sharing resources, follow these steps:
Click the Start button, and then click Help.
On the Contents tab, double-click How To, and then double-click the following topics:
Use a Network
Sharing a folder or printer
Follow the instructions on the screen.
You computer and shared resources can now be accessed by Windows 95, Windows NT 3.1 and 3.5, and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 clients.
Dial a Server (for Client Connection)
For information about configuring Dial-Up Networking to connect to a Dial- Up Networking server, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
ARTICLE-ID: Q145843
TITLE : How to Connect to a Remote Server
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For additional information about Dial-Up Networking Server, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
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How to Connect to a Remote Server
ID: Q145843
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The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows 95
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SUMMARY
This article describes the steps necessary to make a Dial-Up Networking connection to a remote server. This article includes the following sections:
Installing a modem
Installing Dial-Up Networking
Creating a connection
Configuring the connection
Verifying network protocols
Connecting to the remote server
Connecting to shared resources
For information about configuring a Dial-Up Networking server (a component of Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95), please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
Q139710 How to Enable Dial-Up Networking Server Capabilities
MORE INFORMATION
Before you can create a Dial-Up Networking connection to a remote server, you must know the following information:
The remote server's phone number.
The network protocols installed on the remote server.
The type of remote server you want to connect to [such as Windows for Workgroups and Windows NT 3.1; NetWare Connect (NRN); or Windows 95, Windows NT Server 3.5, or Internet (PPP)].
The remote server's computer name.
Installing a Modem
If a modem has not been installed and configured on your computer, you must install one by following these steps:
In Control Panel, double-click Modems.
Follow the instructions in the Install New Modem Wizard.
Installing Dial-Up Networking
If Dial-Up Networking is not installed on your computer, follow these steps:
In Control Panel, double-click Add/Remove Programs.
On the Windows Setup tab, click Communications, and then click Details.
Click the Dial-Up Networking check box to select it, and then click OK.
Click OK.
Follow the instructions on the screen. When you are prompted to restart your computer, do so.
Creating a Connection
To create a Dial-Up Networking connection, follow these steps:
Double-click the My Computer icon and then double-click the Dial-Up Networking icon.
Double-click Make New Connection.
Notes:
If you have not created a connection previously, the Make New Connection Wizard starts automatically.
If you have not installed a modem in Windows 95, the Install New Modem Wizard appears. Follow the instructions to install a modem.
In the "Type a name for the computer you are dialing" box, type a name for the connection. Verify that the correct modem is selected, and then click Next.
Type the area code and telephone number for the connection, select the appropriate country code for the remote server you are dialing, and then click Next.
Click Finish to add an icon for this connection to the Dial-Up Networking folder.
Configuring the Connection
To configure the new connection, follow these steps:
Use the right mouse button to click the new connection, and then click Properties on the menu that appears.
Click Server Type and configure the settings to match the remote server.
NOTE: It is usually best to leave the Advanced Options settings alone. Change these settings only if you are having problems connecting to the server.
Select the network protocols in use on the server.
Click OK, and then click OK again.
Verifying Network Protocols
To determine which network protocols are installed on your computer, follow these steps:
In Control Panel, double-click Network.
View the protocols listed in the "The following network components are installed" box.
If you need to install a network protocol, follow these steps:
In Network properties, click Add.
Click Protocol, and then click Add.
In the Manufacturers box, click Microsoft. In the Network Protocols box, click the protocol you want to install, and then click OK.
Connecting to the Remote Server
Double-click My Computer, and then double-click Dial-Up Networking.
Double-click the Dial-Up Networking connection you want to use.
Click Connect.
When you connect, a window appears stating that you are connected to the server you specified. This window also shows the speed and duration of the connection.
Note that if you use Network Neighborhood to view the network after you connect, it may take a long time to build a browse list (depending on the size of the network). Also, you see a browse list only if the server you connect to is connected to a LAN.
If the remote server is a Dial-Up Networking server, follow these steps to view the remote server in Network Neighborhood:
On the Dial-Up Networking Server:
In Control Panel, double-click Network.
Click File And Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks, and then click Properties.
Click Browse Master, and then click Enabled in the Value box. Click OK.
On the Identification tab, note the name in the Workgroup box. Click OK.
When you are prompted to restart your computer, do so.
On the Dial-Up Networking Client:
In Control Panel, double-click Network.
On the Identification tab, change the name in the Workgroup box to match the name you noted in step 4 above. Click OK.
When you dial in to the server, you can view the two computers in Network Neighborhood. Note that it may take a few minutes before you see the computers in Network Neighborhood.
Connecting to Shared Resources
Once you are connected to a remote server, you can map a network drive or view shared network resources. Note that in order to view a resource, it must be shared by the host computer (the remote server or another computer connected via the network to the remove server).
To view resources, follow these steps:
Click the Start button, and then click Run.
Type the following line in the Open box and then click OK
\\<computername>
where <computername> is the name of the computer with resources you want to view.
To map a network drive, follow these steps:
Use the right mouse button to click Network Neighborhood, and then click Map Network Drive on the menu that appears.
In the Drive box, click the drive letter you want to use for the network drive.
In the Path box, type \\<computername>\<sharename>, where <computername> is the name of the server sharing the resource, and <sharename> is the name of the shared resource you want to use.
To connect to resources on other networks, consult the documentation for the network or check with your network administrator.
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whoa........ there's a bit to be going on with!!!!
Cheers for the help :) Any more for any more?
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