So what cars do we all drive then...?

[mo]

Mine's a knackered old Saab 900 turbo (1986).

Bit of a boat but it goes like stink and actually handles quite well considering I can sleep in the back.

So what y'all got then...?

mo

:E

[Firenze]

*cough*:E h reg rover metro:)

[DiO]

*cough* nothing *cough* :P i cant drive yet, but when i do learn to drive (in about 9 months - when i can(leagaly:P)drive) i have decided that i would prefer to have a basic ok car rather than some crappy a reg escort with all body kits on :P sorry if anyone here has that but i think that they just look apauling

i race karts and i have driven my dads car loads of times so i dont think that there will be any problem there and i have been saveing up for ages, although minidiscs etc have put the old bank ballance back a bit recently :(

any sugestions on what to do or not to do might be useful

ps if you had a mum that wouldn't let you get a motor scooter @ 16 pls tell me cos its really pi**ing me off :P

[oliverotter]

What class do you race in Dio? I can't drive yet either. I have done about 10 lessons and got thorougly fed up with the Corsa I seemingly have to thrash to get anywhere. I get told off for taking the racing line too (on my side of the road) and he has decidied I don't know the meaning of slow :E Well I can't risk being told I am SLOW can I? Imagine the embarassment!!. Hasn't stopped me looking at the likes of those Pug 206s and those lovely Smarts. Only two seats though, but it means I don't have to give lifts to lazy non car owning mates! :E

[DiO]

i have got a rotax max, im using a Biesse chassi atm, but i also have a tony kart chassi which is ready to run. i must say that rotax is the best class that i have driven in karts yet - the fastes by far :P i was at lydd last sunday, where do you race/practice oliverotter?

as for cars, i dont have one yet, but i drive me dads omega elite around the pits, which is nice expecialy when its almost empty :) i dont think ill get a corsa - expecialy after the slating they got on topgear last night - a put 206 is probabaly the favorite atm

[TODave DEFENCE:]

Nissan 200SX

Nice in the dry, trouser-browning in the wet.

[pob0000]

oooooo citroen activa thingy.

in dante red.

which can sound a bit bent if said with a camp voice.

[oliverotter]

I race TKM with an aging '96 Gillard chassis, what is great in the wet but a bit lacking in the dry compared to other chassis. I usually race at Warden Law but haven't been up there since about April. I did Shennington in Feb though. I love that bit where you need to brake for the hairpin and the back steps out, then the back wheels take-off over those bumps. :E Bit scary when my brake fluid started leaking out though, hee hee. What's Lydd like? Oh and I'd stay clear of Corsas. (no offence to anyone here who owns one) Numerous times during lessons I have looked into the footwell to see if anything is stopping the loud-pedal going further, plus you don't seem to get much feedback, it all seems a bit...wooly.

[|DEVIL|]

I am 15 so.....
NO DRIVING FOR ME

[Monkey Fool]

Monkey drives a 306 GTI6. :E

Tidy car and recommend most peugeots to any would be buyers.....and no I don't work for em.


(Mines in Cherry Red which can also sound bent in a camp voice :) )

[Monkey Fool]

Watch out for the 206's though DiO as they are so easy to nick its unreal. Not that I nick em though lol :E

[oliverotter]

2 seconds or something silly like that wasn't it?

[CP5]

My dads Volvo S40 SE 1.8i direct injection. Leather, air con, cd, cruise control, silver metallic, alloys, trip computer and those hooks for hanging your jackets up on!!!

[|DEVIL|]

Originally posted by CP5
those hooks for hanging your jackets up on!!!

HEHEHE

[-reaper-]

Originally posted by TODave DEFENCE:
Nissan 200SX

Nice in the dry, trouser-browning in the wet.

A friend of mine has stacked two of these in the wet!


I've got a VW Corrado VR6 Storm. It's a 2.9 litre V6 engine, 190bhp, 0-60 in 6.4 seconds and the Storm is the special edition version - only 500 of them made, 250 in green and 250 in mystic blue, both with leather interior. I've got the blue one and I think the mystic bit is that it's actually purple! Lovely cars though, this one's my second Corrado in a row. They drive great in all weather with fantastic driver involvement, great through corners (it'll widen it's line rather than slide off the road to the extent of lifting an inside rear wheel befoer giving up and spinning off) and exhillerating accelleration.

They're often written up as the best front wheel drive coupe and are very underrated. It's even got a variable geometry rear spoiler (Porsche 911 style, but not as big!).

There's a guy in Austria who works for VW in Wolfsberg who has seriously modded his VR6 Corrado - it's got everything uprated and even has a Porsche turbocharger fitted bringing the bhp up to 483 and goes 202mph! Not satisfied, he's about to rip out the turbocharger and fit a twin turbo system to bring it up to 650bhp. I want his car.

[Deathwish2000]

Lada, 2 litre Injection, with 700bhp, 0-60 in 5sec

:E :E :E

:shakin:

[DiO]

well, that 206 fact sounds a little worrying - so is the fact that you knew it :P
Some of my m8's are turning 17 around this time and i still have to wait till 10 months to drive :( the only good thing is that ill have 10 more moths to save my money up to get a better car :) but knowing my luck the insurance will have risen by then.
some nice sounding cars in here, although tat lada sounds some what odd :P

lydd is a nice track, its basicaly 2 chicains at the end of straights, a wide hairpin, and a hilled section leading in to a 90 degree right and then a sweeping left, another 90 right on to the main straight. its very fast indeed. i know how it feels when u loose your brakes, i was at buckmore, drying track - dryish line , intermediates, on a zip-yamaha, and 1 lap in my brakes failed totaly, but i had so much grip as it was a super soft chassi i was able to do win buy about 30 seconds setting the fastes time on the 11th lap :P who needs brakes when u can scrub the speed off by going sideways in to the corner - my rear tyers were shot at the end :P have u ever been to buckmore?

[spacecowboy]

4 wheels good 2 wheels better as they say........ :)

Yep I have a motorbike not a car (beginning to regret it now summer has gone) a Honda CBR6F4, common as muck I hear you say, but I never had any R1's or Blades pass me this summer :laugh:

As for a car, well am in the process of buying one and as Monkey says, pugs are a pretty good choice so I think i'll get me a 4door special of the 406 variety, proper little family car (well i'm supposed to be a responsible father.... :laugh: )

I am turning 30 next year so I'll be trading in for a ZX9r or something, gotta watch that insurance :(

Talking of which I see someone has a brain on there shoulders in here and don't want a crappy escort with a body kit ( :laugh: ) I know you lot will cringe but dont brush aside Citroen Ax's cheap insurance 55-60mpg and they're nippy for a 1.0, also just think of the savings you make, put that away for a rainy day and that evo6 will be yours by 21........

Oh dear I DO sound my age now.....

[pob0000]

heh yeah, make sure the first car you get is rediculously cheap to fix. about half my friends wrote off their first car - one or two quite severely.

hm : 2 litre parent's nissan prarie : obliterated
1 litre dihatsu charade turbo. upside down in a field.
3 minis : one banana shaped, one crumpled, one upside down.

and numerous shunts from people, sliding into walls, traffic in the wet, etc.


and as for bikes...bikes are great ffs. yesterday my mate got a supernew zx6r with 5 miles on the clock (traded in his h reg zzr600). um, until 650 miles he's not allowed over 4500rpm. erm. thats 50mph. hehe, may take some time. then its 6000 rpm until 1000 miles. then its 14500 rpm.

[oliverotter]

I...errrr...I got the figure from the local news...yes that's right...the local news.:E (ducks back into shadowy back alley)

No I have never been to Buckmore. Well I had a look when I was on holiday, but that was years ago, way before the extention was built. Warden law is too hard to describe though, I think there is a track map on my site. It's very flowing but very hard to find a set up for, its all about a compromise, but it's very smooth. It's worth the trip if you can make it, they don't do Yams or Rotax Junior last time I checked though. Oh and wrap up warm if you come in the winter. We had petrol fumes freezing on the tank once :)

Oooohhhh, yeah, my mum and dad have a Alfa Romeo 155 (P reg, so it has the widened track and quickened steering) and a Sierra. No chance of being insured on the Alfa though. :bigcry:

[[Vipers]maverick1]

2.9 XR4x4 with a sprintex supercharger
250ish bhp

[Khefru]

Originally posted by spacecowboy
4 wheels good 2 wheels better as they say........ :)

Nice one m8! I have a Hayabusa! 1300cc, 150bhp at the back wheel, 0-60 in 2.8 secs, 0-150 in 11.3 secs, standing quarter in 10.3s @ 143.9mph and a top speed of 190.3 genuine mph! It's a mind blowing machine!

Oh yeah, I have an old 1987 scirroco with 140,000 miles on the clock (still mint) for those rainy days! I would love a Corrado, but can't afford the bike and a good car. :(

[Edited by Khefru on 09-10-2000 at 02:24 AM]

[Monkey Fool]

Khefru know that I hate you U for the bike you own. :tongue:
In my opinion one of the finest looking on the road. :)
And Reaper those Corrado's are amasing M8 and I'm mega envious. :tongue:

Yay for Schumacher.

Boo Hoo for Walker. What has he got to do??????????

[Khefru]

Thanks MF. I like the looks, although some find them hard to get used to! The first time I saw a Hayabusa, I loved it! It was so different, and awsome looking, I thought 'I have got to get me one of those'! And I did! And I'm skint! But it's worth it!

[Monkey Fool]

Same as you I saw it and loved it. My pop'z is a big biker and owns a slightly bent ZZR1100 but he wants to go all fanny and buy a 996 now. BOO.....don't get me wrong they are fit and sound gorge but I'd want a "beast between me legs" if you know what I mean. :) Then again I'll have to wait bloody ages for that kind of cash. Arse.

Did you see the turbocharged Busa in MCN a while back??

[-reaper-]

Thanks Monkey. I'm on my second Corrado now - the first one was an H reg 1.8 16V, handled really well but was only a little bit quicker on accelleration than my Scirroco I had before it. I needed that VR6! At least, that's what I kept telling myself... :E

[Monkey Fool]

Lovely car, truely.
I don't know what to do next year trade in the 306 for a new Pug, a Beetle....yes I think they are ace, a Golf GTI, a bike (bleedin costly to do this and have a car) or keep it and buy a Kart for some amateur racing. Decisions, decisions.... Someone give me advice!!

Has anyone driven the new Beetle that can tell me what they are like??? I have not had a test drive yet so I'm not too sure.

[pob0000]

i saw a rumour on some page that the 2001 hayabusa was going to have less power. erm?..and Khefru, at motorcycle.com (um great url) they've an onboard mpeg of a busa doing 9.9x/142 in the qtr. 9.9x!! quite entertaining watching that speedo once they get traction.


a comical/subversive site : http://come.to/need4speed


don't take this the wrong way, i don't mean it in an agressive way : do you VW chaps find your suspension too soft, kind of not tuaght enough ?

[-reaper-]

VW's that I have experience with:

Polo (old shape) - pathetic suspension
MK2 Golf GTI - spongy suspension
Scirroco GTX - Good cornering, leans a little too much without rollbars
MK2 Passat - nice and soft ride, not good for racing
Old Beetle - I have nothing good to say about these things
New Beetle - too soft
New Passat - comfortable, verging on the relaxed side
16V Corrado - firm, but still comfortable, very responsive
VR6 Corrado - as above

The only thing wrong with the Corrado is the big gap between the 15" wheels and the wheel arches. It cries out to be lowered and larger wheels put on.

I haven't owned all of these cars, by the way!

[Monkey Fool]

Wow, now that's a list of previously owned cars M8!!!

/OOPs edit I just re-read that you "Haven't" owned all them cars Sorry. :E

What do you recon to the New Beetle over all though, personally.

I love the styling etc and its basically a shell on the Golf format so that cannot be bad but what do you think??
I'm really interested in feedback. :E

[Edited by Monkey Fool on 09-10-2000 at 03:49 PM]

[spacecowboy]

Hayabusa eh? That certainly is an awesome bike, I had a little shimmy with one not long back in Maidstone on a roundabout, I took him on the inside (he looked a tad uneasy cornering..lol) but once we were upright, he went past me, on the nearside lane, wheelie ahoy!! Flash bugger! :laugh:

How long do you get out of a back tyre Khefru?? I heard 1800 miles is the best you can expect...yikes.

I might as well talk about cars to while I am here :) Anyone own or driven an EVO6?? My god what a mad car, a motorbike on 4 wheels :laugh:

[Monkey Fool]

Sort of linked to the last thread....at Donnington Yesterday they had an Evo7 flying round the track between the Superstocks and the 250's. Impressive I'll say.

The guy driving left Redgate so late then turned in opposite locked it through the corners. Well mad. That cars got so much grunt. If only I had £32,000.

[spacecowboy]

My brother hired out a new shape beetle and drove down to France to watch the 24hr Le Mans race, he was well impressed with it, especially as he has a 1970 '1300' beetle rusting in his garage..hehe

Don't know why I am laughing though I'm the idiot who has got to weld it back together again...doh! :homer:

[Monkey Fool]

Cheers M8 thats one + going for the Beetle. :E
Dig the sig as well by the way. :)

[pob0000]

its got a flower holder?


speaking of evo6s...me and my mate 'happened to be travelling the same direction as one' in his caterham. It was wierd watching his wheels in the corners. you could tell the black boxes were up to something. not as impressive or as fast as 'following' the f40 was, and comically spotting when he came on boost.


don't get an evo, get an r500 or a jpe or something. same price, and oh so quick.

[spacecowboy]

Cheers :D

You thinking of buying one then MF?

[Monkey Fool]

True its got a flower holder also useful for ciggies and the likes. :E

[Monkey Fool]

Originally posted by spacecowboy

You thinking of buying one then MF?



Yeah I'd love something affordable + a bit different.
Got a 306 GTI at the minute but I want to get a new car. (May go for a new 306 as they so good in corners and soooo damned fast, but not dangerously fast if you catch my drift :E )
I'd love a big bike to be honest but insurance at my age is ridiculous and would mean paying for a car and bike + two insurances. No thanks just now. So a new car it will be I think and the Beetle seems to be on top at the moment.

[spacecowboy]

Yeah gotta say insurance these days is getting nasty for bikers particulary if you own a big bore bike i.e. R1, Blade etc. etc. my quote of £505 a year isn't horrendous but I would like it to be cheaper, after all I'm 29 and the bike is only a 600cc :(

I like 306's is it the 6 speed gti version? Even the turbo diesels look smart :) (Can't believe I just praised a diesel....)

[Monkey Fool]

Yeah it is the 6 speed, and the box on the little sod is ace. No complaints. Hmmm shall I stick with these.
I had the 306 D-turbo before briefly, and they are smart for a diesel.

My reason for thinking VW is the resale value and the reliability they are meant to have + the Beetle just looks ace. I would go Golf but the new shape is really boring except the VR6 version but thats like £24,000.

I'm only 24 and with a years biking experience I won't bother to list quotes I've had for even the likes of VFR 400. Bleedin Stoopid.

[spacecowboy]

It's a shame that VW don't release an official VR6 version of the new shaped Beetle, now that would be nice :)

If I remember rightly me bruv said that was his only complaint that the 2.0i was gutless, and he'd prefer a turbo diesel instead (same peformance more economy..lol)

My mate who has the EVO6 had a VR6 golf before that, blooming lovely car, he spent thousands on the bugger, TSW Hockenheim 17" alloys, 1200 quids worth of suspension (Bilstein if me remembers correct) god knows how much on stereo kit, the only thing that was standard was the engine.

Now he has the EVO pushing around 350 - 370bhp (depending on atmospherics...lol) with 18" alloys (some rally make or other, he got them from Mitsubishi ralliart) I drove it round Cadwell park at a track day late March this year and believe me this is quickest thing A to B, no wonder Tommi Makkinen has one 4 WRC's in it! :) (or was it 3??)

[-reaper-]

I did hear they were going to fit the VR6 lump into the new beetle, but they dropped the VR6 in favour of the new V6 which produces more HP per litre than the VR6 but is strangely slower... Should still be fun in the beelte though - it's supposed to go 0-60 in about 6.8 secs!

[Khefru]

MF -I didn't see the turbo'd busa in MCN, but saw what I presume was the same one in Superbike Mag. 348bhp@10,000rpm!!!!!!!! Thats just plain silly :naughty:

SCowboy - Yes it is a bit lumbersome round the bends, and a good rider on a 600 will leave me, but as you say, as soon as it hits a straight bit of road and I open the throttle -WHOOOSH!!!! It's barking! :)

I have heard horror stories about them chewing the back tyre in 800 miles if it's ridden hard, but I've done 1500miles on mine and it won't need changing for another couple of hundred miles! Mind you 1000 miles were carefull running in! Gulp! Me bank manager will be twitching!

As for bike insurance, it is very expensive now! Mine costs me £950. :bigcry:

[spacecowboy]

Gulp indeed! And me Mrs moaned at me when I could 'only' stretch 5000 miles out of my back tyre..... :laugh:

I met a guy with a turbo'd Busa back in the summer at Paddock Wood Motorcycle City, he had his fairing removed, and an intercooler strapped across the front width ways, looked piggin awful, but was the strangest bike I have ever heard, apparently his original fairing was being modified to allow the intercooler to sit behind where all the electronic gubbins used to be located, and was having a different headlamp fitted to, to save more space.

That was running at 0.6 bar and pushed out 260bhp, but could be pushed to just over 1.0 bar to produce nearly 330bhp.....mad :eek:

[SS004]

Lo

Reaper....Corrado VR6 Storm, nice car, me is also a big VW fan. At the moment I have the following.

Honda civic GT
Ford Escort XR3I lol

And my pride and joy:

VW Golf Cabriolet Rivage

A bit like reaper's corrado in that it is a limited edition with the bigger wheels, leather trim, electcric hood, heated seats etc etc. The most striking feature is the paintwork tho.....it's brill lol

I love this car and it took me years of searching to find this baby. Ahem ok that'll do.

:talk:

[Monkey Fool]

I'm begining to think that too many people drive VW's! :)

Me gonna test drive a Honda Accord Type R at the weekend which should be nice. :E (Can't afford a new one though)

[CP5]

Motorbikes are alright. What about a Honda CBR Blackbird. I've heard their pretty quick LOL!!!

[spacecowboy]

Type R's aren't they like the, or one of, the best handling front wheel drive cars around, prob is for the price I'd rather have a scoob..lol I know they're a bit common now, but pound to performance ratio can't be beat!

[Khefru]

Originally posted by CP5
What about a Honda CBR Blackbird. I've heard their pretty quick LOL!!! They are very quick! It was only with the arrival of the Hayabusa and then the ZX12R that the blackbird was left behind. In a reader poll in RiDE mag, the Blackbird came top of the new bike chart for owner satisfaction!

[Monkey Fool]

Blackbirds are fast as Fluff. They were the fastest roadbike post ZZR1100 but it has now been surpassed by the Hayabusa.

The Accord Type R's are meant to be the next step down from a Honda NSX hence the popularity. (Then again thats what Honda would say!!) I will only be getting a second hand one anyways but theses are still more than I want to pay.
/mmmmmm..... VTEC Engines

[pob0000]

the only thing with vtecs is that there's something nice to doing 100mph and not going over 4000rpm. the high revs, low weight, low torque idea is fine in a caterham, fine in super in a bike, and amazing in an f1 car, but in a saloon? case in point, integraR, 125mph, 8000rpm.

having said all that, i'd love to had an lsd in between my front wheels, and there is still something appealing about accordRs.

[Monkey Fool]

I had a go in an Integra Type R and it was an arse to drive, really bad in the corners...

[spacecowboy]

.....bugger, there goes my dream of lift off oversteer ;)

[Deathwish2000]

anyone for a Nissan SkyLine GTR ?? :E

ok then....

[Monkey Fool]

Keep on wishing. :E

[mo]

Skyline GTR....

....drove one once. Thought I was about to spank it into a tree and all the saftey stuff kicked in and quite literally pulled me round the corner.

I was happy and confused all at once. :)

Really want one now - my driving gets a bit eratic from time to time.....

The GTR was my mate's. He had had it tweaked to 450bhp or there abouts.

He bought it for the reason that they are pretty safe. He's stacked two Astons and a 911 already.

In fact Aston Martin has asked him to stop driving their cars.

Honest!

Probably for his own good really.

:E

mo

[Monkey Fool]

Wish I had M8's like that!!
Actually I wish I had M8's. :E

[-reaper-]

I've just found out that the supercharger that Nik Saran Racing fit onto the VR6 engine has dropped in price from £4000 to £2500... now I'm really tempted!

My VR6 is 190bhp, 0-60 in 6.4 seconds as standard, but with the supercharger, it'll be 265bhp, 0-60 in 5.4 seconds with the torque increased by 30% (from an already torquey engine)! A new set of cams will apparantly drop the 0-60 time a further second...

Hmmm... 0-60 in around 4.5 seconds...

What do you reckon, guys? Should I do it? :)

[-shiva-]

<snip>

[Edited by -shiva- on 26-10-2000 at 04:23 PM]

[mo]

-reaper-

YES!

:E

[-reaper-]

It'd turn into a bit of a monster, wouldn't it?!!

What do the Skylines and Evo's of this world kick out in terms of bhp and 0-60 times? I reckon I'd be able to out drag them with those mods. Hell, it'd probably keep up with the Minardi's! :E