View Full Version : NTL CM price cut....
Calzor Suzay
11-10-2000, 20:39
Only a trial so far but hey.... :E
up to 64Kbps - £4.99 per month
up to 512Kbps - £39.99 per month
Full story here at Cable News:UK (http://cablenews.diginews.org/cablestory.php?story=332)
BrainroTT
12-10-2000, 00:57
BlueYonder is still cheaper so ner! :P
On a serious note I'm pretty glad broadband access is becoming cheaper and easier to obtain. Just evens it up a little on the TFC/CS servers :E
shame there was no option for 1024kps downstream. most people expected that the £40 a month would be for that, with the 512kps for about £20.
Not sure many would want 64kps. 128 should have been the lower limit to at least match ISDN.
/me in a negative mood :)
Shrubbery
12-10-2000, 17:48
Depends...fast downloads and webpage loading is nice, but if it turned out that the 64k cap (which is single channel ISDN after all) did not have much of an adverse effect on gameplay (i.e if you still got ping 50 and could run at rate 6000 for the sake of argument) it might be attractive for that sort of saving.
Imagine ISDN quality games for a fraction of ISDN price...mmm nice.
and if enough people change to the lower cap, theload on the overall network is reduced and those of us that have been suffering recently would be well happy ;)
werewolf_bite
12-10-2000, 18:00
one of my friends got an email from NTL today, he's been offered the cable modem and installation free, and the choice of 64k @ £4.99 or 512k @39.99.
I think he's going to take them up on it :)
Calzor Suzay
12-10-2000, 18:09
also it's essentially a permanent connection and last time I looked BT where charging about £6k for a 64k leased line :eek:
AphexTwin
13-10-2000, 00:15
hehe i just use COllege t2 line while i wait for meh cable modem :D
Calzor Suzay
13-10-2000, 08:43
I think you mean an E2, T2's don't exist :) Still an 8mb line is plenty to boast about :E
Eja Cool8
13-10-2000, 09:07
Aye, it's good to see them making a decent 24/7 connection affordable-that's the way it should be, as long as they keep the network speed up (and that applies to BY as much as BT and NTL):)
Clarkeyboy
13-10-2000, 18:01
hah
E2 sux, my school has a 100Mbit link!
:E
:homer:
Calzor Suzay
13-10-2000, 18:03
Another announcement but only for the Cambridge area so far
£24.99 per month subscription for speeds of up to 512kbps (customer must purchase an ntl-approved cable modem for £149).
£39.99 per month including a cable modem (twelve month rental contract) for speeds of up to 512kbps.
Whole story at Cable News:uk (http://cablenews.diginews.org/cablestory.php?story=335) again.
Calzor Suzay
13-10-2000, 18:14
:laugh: @ Clarkeyboy, yeah right 100mbit :laugh: I think you'll find you have 100mb LAN with a smaller link to the internet.
T0uG|-|t3|)
14-10-2000, 13:19
100mb.
lmfao
i think you is wrong m8y.
100mb to the net.
if you could ahve that atm, why do you think everyone is fussing over speeds of like .5mbps - 2mbps.
lmfao @ 100mb / sec to net. as Calzor says, that is LAN, u prob got around 2 mbps 2 net or something
i want to find out what my school has, coz it gets 8k/sec when its being shared on 7-8 computers. more during lesson times
Calzor Suzay
14-10-2000, 14:14
I think the goverment made a deal for schools to get ADSL cheap and earlier, Some college's and Uni's have upto about an 8mb connection but I'd say 8k/sec is probably either dial up ISDN or a leased ISDN line.
I think the jaNET backbone is 155Mbit(dont hold me to that).
Still thats shared. And the the faster I have heard of on jaNET is 1mb/sec, so CS is right.
Andy
DiscoTHOM
17-10-2000, 00:11
Perhaps I dont understand the situation with NTL...
If you have an NTL phone line, you can get 24.7 56k access for free? Right?
What if you have NTL cable digital TV service...?
I was under the impression you could get a cable internet service, through that cable, for free?
Please explain :(
Cheers
In theory you are right and at present yo can acces the internat via your cable box.However this is really an INTRANET AS IT IS ONLY SELECTED SITES. In the futere they plan to open up full internet access to your tv or pc using the cable modem inside the digibox. Due to problems on the current network this idea has been put on hold until me and my mates move our sorry *rses and due some overtime to upgrade the network. BTW the cable modem in the digibox is according to the spec sheet able to download at 30 meg/sec but, due to bandwidth restrictions we will never see it.:( The stuff they are offering at the minute is just a pacifier i think. If you are an ex C&W cust then you cant have the 24/7 deal, but if you are a BT cust you can ????? Go figure. Its something to do with PDH and SDH,but I wont bore you.Or have I already?
Davvo
Re the school thing, its called the National Grid For Learning and the idea is that all schools have between a 2meg and 38meg pipe to the net depending on size and needs.
Government are paying too, which is nice :)
Shrubbery
18-10-2000, 17:33
Originally posted by DiscoTHOM
Perhaps I dont understand the situation with NTL...
If you have an NTL phone line, you can get 24.7 56k access for free? Right?
What if you have NTL cable digital TV service...?
I was under the impression you could get a cable internet service, through that cable, for free?
Please explain :(
Cheers
I may be wrong, but I think you do have to pay something for the free 56k access via NTLworld. If not, that's a very good deal :E
You cannot get cable modem service for free full stop. If you have a separate cable modem, it will be connecting to its own wall socket...but that does in fact go through the TV cable back to NTL. This is the situation as it stands at the moment, and it certainly isn't free.
Unless NTL screw your billing up, but that's another story!
As and when they allow you to connect your PC through the ethernet port on your digibox using built-in cable modem, I very much doubt you'll get that service for free either. Somehow I don't think even NTL would be that stupid :E
Face it, they currently hav a nice revenue stream from separate cable modems. They are not charging you for the modem itself, only for use of their network acting as gateway between you and the internet. Why should that pricing policy change significantly just because they allow you to use a built-in modem on the digibox?
As to whether we will ever be able to use the full theoretical download rate of any cable modem (3Com standalone one I am currently using is max 3mb/s IIRC), since their network has collapsed under the weight of current demands on it I think it might be a while before we see ANY raising of the cap.
About the college thingy my skool has a 2M/bits per sec line..i know this coz i know the network manager and i have seen the BT eqipment (dunno what u call that bit)that says 2Mbits/sec and this links into the Cisco router, just incase u think the equipment may not be running at its full speed, it is coz i asked him! Well the actual network with 400+ P3 500+ computers on it is only 10Mbit/sec and i get a download rate on a machine of only 5kbytes/sec at skool times...but up to 80Kbytes/sec after skool, and that ain't coz its on a proxy...we just got rid of that...and i am also acessing mp3's that are on my private web space. But the nicest thing of all is that the govenment pays the lot....ehehhe...i'm off to persuade them that a 2Mbits/sec to my house would aid my learning...lol!
I hate the network managers though....they have 100Mbits/sec network straight to the router....DAMN!
Yeah i doubt the guy who said his skool has a 100Mbits link..although a guy i know who works for the bbc has a 155Mbits/sec ATM line to his machine.....guess what he is in charge of their routing!!!!
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