So when do you stop being a newbie?

[T^RN!$H3[)]

At what point do you stop being a newbie and start becoming a normal respected member off the game playing community?

Not that I am a newbie you understand?

[YCrowley]

That a good question.
I don't suppose that the kind people a gameplay wouldn't mind telling us
And yes, if you must know I am a newbie.

[YCrowley]

I thought i was a newbie but it says I ain't so I ain't
I will however still fight for the newbies

[mr_grumpy_man]

You stop being a nooby when you stop acting like one. That means :

No spam (or at least limited use of spam, and only for humourous effect)

Willing to offer help and advice to other community members

Not pointlessly abusive

Always willing to have a laugh (although try to limit the number of times it's at someone else's expense)

Post count does go a little way towards generating respect - but it's more down to the quality of the posts than anything else. Except if you work for Gameplay, in which case you can say what you want when you want and still demand respect :)

The easiest way is to become known and respected within certain game/forum. Then expand.

Or something like that.

[Edited by mr_grumpy_man on 03-11-2000 at 02:50 PM]

[YCrowley]

First of all, I only was abusive because you lot were taking the p*** out of me and other newbies.
Yes I do have an attitude, I can admit that but if you are willing to take it easier on the newbies thats OK.
If you don't I will hit back.
I do like a laugh but there is a limit to that.
I will help once I get to know PC games, reason being I only know alot about Playstation games and there going out since the PS2 was launched.
And don't forget I only got the net last week

[Bandito]

Well, the progression from newbie to established monkee is a long and tough journey.

To start with, one needs to review their name with respect to its connotational reflection.

Ie: To start with, joo may be called:

DEATH2U.

This name SCREAMS newbie. It conjours an image of a blonde haired boy, wiv bony girl arms, whose spent hours, nay DAYs, deliberating the most effective and powerfull handle imaginable, and came up with DEATH2U. In Their fragile mind, this is a dominant, fear inducing name, suggesting that, should joo find the misfortunate to be in the same digital space as them, joo will suffer an almighty fate.

So, to ascend the ladder of respectablitly, a name change may well be required to avoid unfair pideon-holing, judgement and abuse.

By the same token however, adopting a name such as Ralph3 or Peter007 is also not advised, as this suggests the protagonist has the imagination of a small piece of lint. Given the unparralled freedom to adopt an personna imaginable, the selection of ones own name, followed by a few numbers to afford its registration is somewhat "dasadwdawdwdadwdawdwa".

Once a suitable name is achieved, the process of leavng newbie ville requires a carefully selected stratergy. Every post must have at least 1 iota of thought put into it, and one should refrain from random and vicious outburst that serve to vent the current frustration of said poster, as they struggle to adapt to their new surroundings.

Newbie posts are often indentifiable by their confrontational over-tones. Giving no thought to appropriate ettiquette, a newbie will often merely demand answers and advice, beliveing that the digital environment they occupy will simply spew back a satifactory reply. Posing a query in a polite and approachable manner will immediately ascend you from the bottom_level of newbie, in that people will not be forced to view you negatively from the off-set, and therefore attempt to help. In this way, you will recieve 'first contact' with a non-newbie, and parastically drain some status from their presence in your post.

From here, joo must continue to post with consideration, and use these posts to perpetutate whatever character joo feel joo want to portray. As long as the motives are reasonable, and joo don't concern joorself with slaggin off everythng that types, this will begin to establish your place amongst a community, and, even if people don't respond to joo, they will be watching, and ascertaining joor avatar's personality. Try to get a feel for the way the community works, what makes it tick, and what sort of content goes down well. If the community likes talkin about fish, start a post about the different types of fish, perhaps including joor particular preference to haddock. Soon joo will find like-minded haddock lovers flocking to joor expressions and nuturing them wiv similar aspirations for haddock-lans-parties.

The post count is, of course, another main consideration in the newbies developement. In a very tenuouos way, it is a reflection of joor age. Starting, surpisingly at 1, every post joo do thereafter will raise joor post count. As long as this progression doesnt pertain to overt spammage, which will do nothing but regress joor status backwards, the posts will slowly confirm joor presence and existence, and reify joor position amongst the masses. Tis perhaps best though, that joo don't place to much importance on this factor, as joo will find its an integral part of the above mentioned activites. Put the actual posts and their content BEFORE the post count and joo will find the experience much more rewarding.

As joo post more, relationships with other poster will floursih and further joor progress from anonymous "asdawdawdw" to fully fledged monkee.

Arguably the most fundamental factor in joor growth will be playing the game upon which the community joo participate in is based. In this way, joo will meet members of the community on a far more interactive basis, and this affords joo another way of increasing joor familiarity, thus dimishing joor newbieness. If joo are particullarly gude at the respective game, this will aid joo immensley, as people will usually respect ability and accept joo into their elitist secret-handshaking crew with greater ease. However, even if joor arent the l333tist bandit to begin with, just keep joor attitude and behaviour clean and spinkee, and people will react mucho better to joo. Continue to play regularly, under the same name, and soon, when joo join a game ans say "Hiiiiiiiii" joo will invariably be greeted.

Don't be afraid to ask for help in the games, but be warned, for whatever reasons, joo may not always get an appropriate answer. This situation could be as a result of a myriad of reasons, but regardless, it is not an exscuse to hurl abuse at the server and its inhabitants. The best course of action here is to continue playing, whilst harbouring a deep resentment and sweating like a baboon.

Having taken on board all of this, joo should find that wiv varying success, joo will break free from the ranks of newbieness in a reasonably short time period.

Finally some DO's and DO NOT DO'S of online participation.

DO - Think bout what joo post.

DON'T - call the moderators gay pidgeon molesters.

DO - Have respect for other memebers and don't attract confrontation for no gude reason

DON'T - make joor first thread : "Joo are ALl wILLYHEads Who EAt Skid MAkred Pants!"

DO - Learn from others

DON'T - presume that no response to joor post is an automatic signal for joo to SPAM the board wiv the same query.

DO - enojy the game and try to get as much fun out of it as possible.

DON'T - think because joo achieved something in the game, joo are now l33333t and can become an abusive, biggoted frog-bollock

DO - take alot of things wiv a pinch of salt

:monkee:

[T^RN!$H3[)]

I see so geting rid off your newbie status has nothing 2 do with your skill or ability as a games player.

[mr_grumpy_man]

T^RN!$H3[) - Nope :)

YCrowley - None of that was aimed at you m8, what I said was basically what da :bandit: said, but quicker :)

[T^RN!$H3[)]

Kool :E

[*Fr3aK*]

im still a newbie , having loads of posts counts for nothing :E

[blito]

pure and simply, the difference between a newbie and a frag monkee is knowing what your doing. my main online fix is quakeworld, where knowing how to configure your setups to get decent playability is one of the main hurdles, followed by advanced gaming techniques such as rocket jumping,bunny hopping,learning to aim properly etc.....
actual; skill has little to do with it- i am merely average at quake but am well known and respected because of my good attitude.
one last thing- be a gracious loser `cos will lose a lot before you start to win. fs, after over a year of quake i`m still in the bottom division of the free for all league. man i suck :E

:shakin:

[T^RN!$H3[)]

I always thought you stopped being a n00by when you...


Stopped getting lost on the map.
Can remember where all the weapons, ammo and armour are.
Figure out how too use binds. :cheese:
Your name constantly appears at the top off the score board. :E
You keep getting asked to join a clan when you don't use you TAG. (get irritating after a while)

[Slime]

DON'T - call the moderators gay pidgeon molesters

Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, or errrr liking pigeons ;)

Slime

[YCrowley]

I'll take that, well most of that advice in me stride.

Cheers lads and ladies(?)!!!

[mr_grumpy_man]

I guess the point that needs to be made is that there's different places to be a nooby.

On this forum, I'm not a nooby. But in Counterstrike (which I started playing on thursday) I'm a nooby. And fail miserably on most of the points T^RN!$H3[) mentioned above :)

[T^RN!$H3[)]

If you ask me (I know you didn't) CS is over too quick there you are wondering about trying to find someone to shoot when...you find yourself back at the beginning again. And so on and so fourth. Arrrrrrgh does my head in!

[mr_grumpy_man]

I know... that's why I need practice :)

[YCrowley]

Well I want counterstrike(halflife) for xmas, I've heard good things about it, perhaps you lot could giv me the lo-down on whats it like, how it plays etc.
Cheers

[mr_grumpy_man]

The single player game is f*****g brilliant. And there are so many ways to play the game online it's rediculous. Not just Counterstrike (possibly one of the most played online games in the world ffs!), but also Action Half Life, Team Fortress Classic... the list is longer than I can remember.

I used to love Unreal Tourney.

I worship a new God now.

Make sure you get Half Life Generations. The inclusion of Opposing Force will mean even if the Online game(s) do nothing for you, the single player stuff will keep you occupied for weeks :)

[YCrowley]

I'll keep that in mind
Cheers m8

:dance:
c'mon dance

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

Oh no, so does this mean that I am a n00by?!?!?!
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Nooooooo Someone pass me a gun. :bigcry:

Half-life in normal DM suck's, but TFC and CS are both solid! :E

[T^RN!$H3[)]

/me takes a big black marker and writs n00by across Vengeance's head.

:E

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

I don't want a flame war m8, but if you want a 1v1 just give me a buzz. I will OWN j00 muppet! :E

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[FiRe]

Originally posted by [PAR]Bandito
DON'T - call the moderators gay pidgeon molesters.


no, you only do that when you know them :laugh:

[YCrowley]

Why can't you do that even if you don't no them, huh

answer me that boy answer me

no offence intended, just merely pointing it out

[FiRe]

well, ok, you can but it don't get you very far if you call them anything, inc. Gay Pidgeon shaggers or Mole Spanking Homo's :D

[brock landers]

i'm a newbie but i bet i could whup all your asses on q2!
i've got a voodoo 2 now.....
specially on that map with the railgun underwater and the big lift

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

If you can whoop ever1's arse then your not a n00by then are you?

...silly boy :dozey:

[YCrowley]

Hey m8, voodoo 2's are old, I've had mine for a year and I think it be sh1te, I mean you can't get a decent picture if you extend a Britney Spears backgound picture cos it looks blurry!!

[Mad_Man_Moon]

I'm not a newby on NME. Old hand, but that doesn't matter (and it's quite irrelevant in here). I've always wondered why but what is all this l33333t stuff about?

I don't understand I'm afraid. I'd really like to know, as I feel rather inadequate not knowing what all this slang means. It's rather like having a fantastic group of friends but when you go down to the local in East London you can't understand a word they're saying because they're speaking a load of Jackson Pollocks.

No offense to anyone (I'm far to meek for that), I can't pretend to have the best English in the world, I just wondered, because I tried shortening down my words and using clever symbols for a while when I first came on the net, and all it seems to do is annoy people and piss them off.

Is there an onnline dictionary for all this hacker inventing talk? (for example I found Jackson Pollocks @ http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.com/ ).

Regardless wonderfull post from whoever i was that went on for ages, I love stuff like that, some people have a natural nack for explanation and that seemed very comprehensive.

Nice one.

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[mr_grumpy_man]

Try here for an explanation of l337...

http://faster.wireplay.net/showthread.php?threadid=191564

[Silent Bro]

Good question, I’m a newbe here (more a lurker really) but elsewhere I’m well know etc and I couldn’t guess how many thousands of posts I’ve made over the years. Don’t make no difference no how, as somedays I’m always going to be the newbe because there are a lot of net pensioners out there ;)

I’d go with mr_grumpy_man when he said part way to dropping the label is when you contribute something useful back on a regular basis.

But then m-g-m said “Not pointlessly abusive” gee I thought it was net traditional to go get Gates? <vbg>

I disagree it’s about message counts, you can chat with someone with a million post and someone with 10, and you can tell who’s the net savvy one and who’s the real newbe.

It goes back to this being useful, you know, being part of it and not an outsider full of yak. You don’t have to be an expert mind you, just yourself and all that. Not trying to prove yourself, and getting that respect that Bandito talks about. What he says make a lot of sense!

[mr_grumpy_man]

Originally posted by Silent Bro
... and getting that respect that Bandito talks about. What he says make a lot of sense!


wtf!

Has someone told da :bandit: :monkee: he made sense???

He's not gonna be happy... :cheese:

[Silent Bro]

It’s a cruel world m-g-m :)

[Bandito]

<weeps into silly hat>

;(

[mr_grumpy_man]

/me pats :bandit: on the head...

there there m8y, it's not that bad...

:cheese:

[Silent Bro]

Could be worse you two, you could get to be made a moderator, have to read and prune spam and be o’ so sensible and wise 24:24 :cheese:

[mr_grumpy_man]

Sounds right up :bandit: s street :laugh:

:cheese:

[[DS]Xenomorph]

Originally posted by brock landers
i'm a newbie but i bet i could whup all your asses on q2!
i've got a voodoo 2 now.....


Typical Newbie :)

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

Another way to spot a n00by they are the ones who put there clan tag on there user name when they registered there forum account! :laugh:

[Silent Bro]

Seeing a clan tag on someone’s name must be of some use though I would have thought to some, especially newbies.

If your playing online enough to want to join a group, then you’ll be getting help from the rest of the clan in your playing skills too. And newbies always need help to start with. :)

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

Your missing the point m8, if you put your clan tag on your username and you leave the clan and join a new one your still going to have the old clan tag on your name unless you re-register. Now do you see? :rolling:

[mr_grumpy_man]

If you ask a forum admin kindly (like our glorious test-posting/general chatting source of eeeeevel Mister666) then they can change your nick for you.

I'd say a clan tag is a positive thing, because at least it shows some kind of competance in a competitive game as well as implying they're not a complete nooby :cheese:

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

You still don't get it do you dumb-ass! You can put your tag in your siggy. I agree being in a clan is a good thing, and you should wear your clan tag with pride just don't put it on your username on the forums!!!

[mr_grumpy_man]

:angry:

I'll have joo know my ass is a member of mensa and has a degree from Cambridge!!!

And you don't get my point! There's nothing wrong with having a clan tag in your name, you can change it if you leave/change clans, so whats the problem with it???

[[DS]Xenomorph]

Why don't you? At least then it shows some pride and comitment to your clan? Should i ever leave DS i can quite easily ask the forum admins to change my name and they prolly would.

A newbie imho is based on the time u have been around, i mean my post count is pretty okay considering its about 4 months old, so am i a noobt? (Anyone answering yes come play me on UT :)

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

I would love to say yes but I have know idea what a "noobt" is. J00 n00by, MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Fine I accept you points but I don't see why you just don't put your clan tag in your siggy?

noobt... :laugh: that's a good 1 :laugh:

Damn n00by's what is the world coming 2? :rolling:

[mr_grumpy_man]

A noobt = one letter short of a nooby :laugh:

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

I got that dumb-arse, pffft. :dozey:

[mr_grumpy_man]

Bah.

Damn joo.

As in one can short of a fekin six pack.

And I've already established, I'm a smart ass, not a dumb ass.

:angry:

[[O.W.N]Animal]

Originally posted by -=V3NG3^NC3=-
Another way to spot a n00by they are the ones who put there clan tag on there user name when they registered there forum account! :laugh:


Something wrong with my tag on my name? Does this make me a newbie?

[mr_grumpy_man]

Yes.

Um...

:laugh:

[Silent Bro]

>>Your missing the point m8, if you put your clan tag on your username and you leave the clan and join a new one your still going to have the old clan tag on your name unless you re-register. Now do you see?<<

I take your point about clan tags being needing to be changed in names, but as I wrote earlier I don’t see the number of messages a person posts as making them a newbies or not.

If admin can change your user name then the problems sorted, so I personally see it more of an inconvenience really.

now let's pass a few cold ones round from that 6 pack 'cause it's needlessly hot in here folks :) :)

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

The sixpack is mine and j00 lot aren't getting any!!! :tongue:

Oh ok then here you go. :P :E

[[O.W.N]Animal]

[O.W.N] isn't a clan. It's a declaration of independence.

I'm the only one.

I have no interest in joining a clan. I prefer to remain freelance.

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

No one asked about your bloody tag u Muppet! :tongue:

/me snatches beer back off Animal

[mr_grumpy_man]

Now now children, play fair and share all the intoxicating liquor. There's good boys :cheese:

[[O.W.N]Animal]

Silence insolent youth. :tongue:

[-=V3NG3^NC3=-]

Is j00 talkin' to meh... IS j00 talkin' to meh?!?!

[50sQuiff]

so am i a nooby? Anyone answering yes come play me on UT

UT noobee llame :D

[Silent Bro]

>>It's a declaration of independence. <<

a yank? now behave yourself & don’t you be dumping my tea in the Thames, I can’t frag without it <g>

>>I'm the only one. <<

that makes two of us ;Þ

>>I have no interest in joining a clan. I prefer to remain freelance.<<

divide you stand united you fall <bg>

[Silent Bro]

Now did anyone see how m-g-m drank his beer???

I got to ask with his having education, a finely tuned mind and being in MENSA and all.

Did m-g-m open it by the ring pull like the rest of us, or did he find a way to do it without touching the can? <g,d,&r>

[mr_grumpy_man]

I psychicly projected the beer directly into my stomach

:P

[Silent Bro]

>>I would love to say yes but I have know idea what a "noobt" <<

If you have BTInternet as your ISP and you try to log on after 6pm... you say nooo BT! Loads of other threads on that topic if you fancy a laugh and yes I have BT as one of my ISP's :/

[Silent Bro]

>>psychicly projected <<

Gosh I must have some of that!!! Just walking past the off licence would be a night out <g>

[[O.W.N]Animal]

I'm not a yank! Damn cheek :)

[mr_grumpy_man]

Yesh joo ish.

teeheehee

[Silent Bro]

So there are somethings worse than being called a newbie then

[Silent Bro]

Or should I be saying MORE embarrassing

teeheeheex2

[LEASH]

Mmmmmmmm...what the hell did I come in here for....oh yeah, u nolonger a newbie when u been playing games so long, u cann't remember what u suppose to be doing anymore :rolleyes:

[tGK] LEASH