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mob|chaos
21-11-2000, 01:46
just my luck , i save for a 950mhz athlon and now these damn P4 1.5ghz turn up at PC World and im aleady out of dat :cry:

/sod it ,me thinks its cheaper to stay 1 stay behind

ybw
21-11-2000, 14:56
rofl

Have a look at some P4 benchmarks :laugh:

Also :


PC World


:laugh: :laugh:

Andy

[ITV]Lacutis
21-11-2000, 15:03
Any idea on the price of a P4 btw?

Nozzeh
21-11-2000, 15:40
Lots, ~$500 for the 1.4 isn't it?

Plus you need RAMBUS and all sorts of icky expensive stuff. ;(

PADDYBOY
21-11-2000, 16:05
Originally posted by -]MoB[-ch/\os
... turn up at PC World and im aleady out of date :cry:


LOL ... you're well out of date and need your head seeing to if you were even thinking of going to PC world to buy a PC !!

hurricane hicken
21-11-2000, 16:07
Depends. Were you born with 3 arms and 3 legs???

1 You need RDRAMs, in pairs, as the only board to support it ATM is dual channel. This gives extra performance but costs big time.

2 The chip is more than 1.2G T/B.

3 The M/B itself is hideously expensive.( Aparently the chipset costs twice as much as AMD's new 760)

4 You'll need a new case,power supply and H/S, as Intel specifies the location of the CPU, so the H/S bolts to the case, not the socket. And the power supply has an extra connector, to keep the CPU well amped up.

5 As somebody pointed out, the benchmarks are pants. Not a real surprise though, as new chip architectures need to be optimized differently in compiler support. This chip was designed to be clocked fast, in doing so they've dropped the instruction's per clock, so in some things, it blows big time. When (if) more SSE optimized stuff comes out great, but for now it's best for things that need a lot of bandwidth, like audio/video encoding, and pants for games, especially those with a lot of AI in them.

7 This chip is designed to ramp to much higher clock speeds than it's being launched at. In 18 months or so, it will be at 3 GHz, and will do very nicely. Athlon will not go that fast, so AMD will have to redesign it. As it stands, the Athlon is better suited to the speeds were at now, but the P4 will probably go to around 6 GHz.

I'd guess the cost of a P4 Vs a Athlon 1.2 DDR system would be about £350 difference, so ATM the P4 is bad value, and I wouldn't recommend anyone to get one until around 9 months. My motto is if you buy bleeding edge, you'll get cut.

Uranium
21-11-2000, 16:38
NEVER get anything from PC World!

The_Wise
21-11-2000, 17:49
go read the review at http://www.tomshardware.com it shouw the p4 is good only 'cos of it's large memory bandwith. The T'bird 1.2ghz is as good in ut and MDK2 (well better), but the p4 kicks it in Q3 (me thinks intel saw q3 as a bench mark and 'tuned' the p4 to it)

1 more thing NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM PCWORD (the tried selling me a bnc terminator for £4 FFS, they cost £1 at local comp shop)

I wish i could spell :dozey:

[Edited by The_Wise on 21-11-2000 at 04:51 PM]