Teaming in FFA

[grumpy53]

Just a few words about what I think is teaming in FFA. I found recently that some pilots seem to be teaming up. Reading the comms between pilots comments are like, "Would you like me to cover you and "Make sure you help me.

I find it hard enought fighting one pilot, and I think if this thing is happening it should be stamped on hard.

Am I paranoid? Anyone else think teaming is happening?

Blackrider
Stop talking about me

[devilin]

one of the REZ lot, said if where not shooting each other is that teaming?,
personally I think it is, but I'm sure the powers to be, will clarify the situation,
yours ever humbly devilin:devil:
let me at them

[paulfitzs]

I think teaming was defined as two or more pilots co-operating to get a kill or to avoid being killed. "Cover my ass" and "Check six" are therefore specific requests to team up and are forbidden by the COC.

There is no obligation on any pilot to kill any other so you do not have to kill a team mate if you don't want to. Some squads have had a "no kill team mates in FFA" policy in the past but this is not teaming under the above definition.

The "no kill" policy could be considered unlawful in certain circumstances. If 5 of that squad were more obvious "kills" than you and another team member attacked you, then surely you are being targetted (against COC). Additionally, one of his squad will not go for the guy on your six BUT if you were to evade and get on his six another member of his squad would blast you for sure. In the first example you have been negatively selected for targetting rather than positively (but are still effectively targetted). In the second example the intention was not to "team" but nevertheless this was the result.

The "no kill" policy is really only a minor problem as most squads take great delight in shooting down team mates (I suspect with the CO as a favourite target).

[[TSQN]RedKite]

Quote "no kill team m8s in FFA" Well i'm damn sure that aint right and if it is then we needs to get it established that any frienship or squad loyalty stops at the door of the FFA arena.
Let me clearly say that any TSQN who are around in FFA are just as good a target as anyone else is, and equally i'm more than happy to be killed by my own squad members, in fact if they didnt i'd wanna know why !
This policy should extend to any game where team mates are playing in a ffa arena otherwise its NOT ffa, is it?

[paulfitzs]

Quote RedKite:-

"...any frienship or squad loyalty stops at the door of the FFA arena..."

I couldn't agree more, my squad (JAGZ) do NOT have a "no kill" policy & I'm pretty sure none of my team mates would ever want one (it's a bloody good opportunity to blast each other). FFA is just that, a complete "me against the rest" on a level footing, nothing should be allowed to upset that.

The policy itself however does not constitute teaming according to the normal definition but could (as I pointed out) lead to a breach of the COC. It is difficult to police anyway since how can you prove "Pilot A" should have killed team mate "Pilot B" instead of killing you? Like I said, squads have done this in the past but I've no evidence of any doing it lately so currently I don't think it is a major problem.

Do any squads currently admit to this? If so, it looks like it could be a subject for further debate. If not, nothings broke so we don't need to fix it.

[grumpy53]

Thanks for your comments. The phrase "Opened a can of worms" comes to mind.

Blackrider

['Bat*21']

Jedi are my main targets in the FFA, mainly because they all stink ;)
BUT - shouldnt we be entitled to choose who we shoot down?

[Mantis_Snare]

i dont know about you lot, but i personally get much more pleasure from killing my own squad m8s in FFA than the others who i dont know. In fact i probably search them out in FFA. Is this teaming or at the least also against the CoC?. Incidently the pleasure may derive form the infrequency of the occurance :)

Mantis

[Marky B]

I doubt it would be possible to enforce it, then those of you who choose not to shoot down POf's and Cdt's could also be accused of a kind of teaming, neway no-one can tell me to shoot someone down, thats got to be against somekind of civil right hasn't it?

[Edited by Marky B on 21-12-2000 at 02:14 PM]