3D Modelling Job Offer

[[TT]Apocalypse]

Hi, I work for Arup (http://www.arup.com) who are one of the largest consulting engineers in the world.

We are currently looking for a 3D modeller to join our team. The applicant should have a good understanding of 3D Studio MAX, however training will be provided. Use of Photoshop, AutoCAD and web skills will also be an advantage.

The position will be based in London and the work will primarily consist of creating 3D models and animations of various construction projects. Buildings, bridges etc...

Please send all applications to:

Shelagh Walsh
Arup
13 Fittzroy Street
London
W1P 6BQ
shelagh.walsh@arup.com

You can also contact me if you need further info.

[pob0000]

I don't use Max anymore, went off into lightwave as it was better for what I did. However, I'd be interested to know what you think of my work...considering you do this stuff professionally, and I'm still in the fairly infantile stages of freelance.

er, heh don't feel forced to reply btw. i'm just curious, type thing. thanks for any info.

http://www.xng.nildram.co.uk/preview.html


pob, with a curious post

[[TT]Apocalypse]

I think your work is of a very high standard. I'm expecially interested in the interior shots of the yachts and aircraft. Were they created solely in Lightwave or was another program used in addition to perfect the radiosity effect?

Images like those are time consuming in MAX and we would probably end up using LightScape for the radiosity solution then port that back into MAX.

[pob0000]

Thanks for the compliment.

All the pics are modeled/rendered in lightwave -
some of them have also been grained-up in photoshop, but thats just a personal thing for the site. Sometimes with boat exteriors (er none of which are on the site) I'll import an iges through rhino, but that's a messy life of flipping and welding polygons (thats also why I don't use max anymore...lightwave's pretty handy for that exact kind of work compared to how I found max2.5, and I used to do loads of it).

The interiors are from lightwave 5.6 (before radiosity was added)..and are hence without radiosity, just "one or two" lights. With the boat interiors I'll also do a bit of tweaking with photoshop, quick-masking then de-saturating&darkening to add a little shadow in corner etc - really where I think true radiosity is at its coolest. 20 minutes photoshopping a 3500x2500 picture is much quicker than adding 30 little lights here and there, checking them, tweaking, then rendering with the extra shadow calculations and stuff.

I've played with radiosity with the interiors, but the boats are for magazines, and so the res is about 3500x2500. With lightwave6, and a decent tolerance on the radiosity, it was going to be about 8 days for a picture. Things are better now, but its still essentially not at all practical as I don't own several 1 gig machines with 512mb+ ram each...can't think why. heh.


I had to do some radiosity renders of a boat-exterior in december, it was about 10 hours for a 1280x720. They wanted to see real-lighting-schemes, and therefore the "lets-put-a-light-here" technique wasn't as accurate as the radiosity doing it for me. Thing is, lw's radiosity can be a bit funny, fall-off rates, only one bounce, etc.

[7ths0n]

Aaaah Mr TT person sir, you would know Mr UT playing RedVenom then ? who also happens to be in TT and also works for Arup ? :)

Give him a kick in the arse for me, ta

^7th^

[[TT]Apocalypse]

:laugh: Yes I know RedVenom. He works on on the floor below me. I'll kick his arse over our LAN for ya.:E

[pob0000]

out of interest, is there any particular reason you use max over something-else? apart from may be autocad-shinanigans...

[[TT]Apocalypse]

Yeah we have corporate agreements with Autodesk and are registered developers for them. As such we get a very good discount.;)

We are also as a company big users of AutoCAD.
But saying that most of our modelling is created from scratch in MAX, so we could really use any program we wanted. However we do need to import and export via AutoCAD at times.

[pob0000]

heheh, go onnnn, start using lightwave as well - less than £2000/seat.

um, alternatively, hehe...

[dirtymb]

i cant see how anyone can get started in this biz, 2k for a program is a bit steep for someone to shell out.not very fair is it

[pob0000]

lightwave cost 1700 quid, or so. I've made one or two sacrifices to get where I am. Borrowed a large chunk of lightwave's cost and payed it back with money from my first contract. However, yeah, its not easy, and that's part of the reason why a)warezing is rife (Especially for Max/acad), and b) why they're doing that free version of Max to prevent people from downloading a £3000 quid program just to make a gun for halflife.

lightwave is soo cheap compared to the other big boys...

[HotGalaxy3000]

im defininitly interested!!

[[TSQN] Fu11]

Originally posted by HotGalaxy3000
im defininitly interested!!

dude, you're like 16? (i dunno, but close enough?)

finish school you tart ;)

[HotGalaxy3000]

how did u know!!

yep, 3mnths left and im in the REAL world making more cash!! :E

[[TSQN] Fu11]

Originally posted by HotGalaxy3000
how did u know!!

yep, 3mnths left and im in the REAL world making more cash!! :E

good guess.

and i doubt it, it's damned tough out here.

[HotGalaxy3000]

Nice to me now. :)

im ready for the real world.... :E

[[TSQN] Fu11]

s'what they all say.

now stop spamming Grace's forum, or i'll whup you, capische?

[HotGalaxy3000]

none of it it/was spam!?!

[Brocken]

all of it was :P

[HotGalaxy3000]

well in that case Broken was spamming cuz all of the replies at the top were done by him!! bout 7.

ner, ner nerrrrrr. :E

[[TSQN] Fu11]

look, Mac's warned you, you filled the Air Attack forum, by all means provide useful answers, but FFS, you're 16 and still in school, you cannot seriously reply to a post asking about a job, with "i'm seriously interested" or whatever it was, and expect it to be taken seriously

= spam

<slap>

Grace is away for a while btw, so it'll be my boot kicking yo' ass foo' :mrt:

http://geocities.com/fu11blood/danielT.jpg

:E

[Edited by [TSQN] Fu11 on 23-01-2001 at 04:54 PM]

[HotGalaxy3000]

How does being 16 come into all this?? You saying 16 isnt old enough for a job or somit??

How old r u then!?!

Cheeky ****er arnt u!

[pob0000]

er, dude, to go for the kind of job Apocalypse was talking about, you would typically want a couple of years experience of non-'cubes with lensflare' 3D. chances are that at 16 you haven't spend 12.5% of your life playing with 3DS et la. Of course, this is just an assumption and I could be v.wrong....

personally, if I were 16 again I'd stay in school/college and skill-myself up if the option was available to me...but there are always going to be certain circumstances and stuff guiding where you go from here, and I'm not going to pretend to know yours.

[[TSQN] Fu11]

precisely the point i was trying to make pob, ta :)

in posting that, pointless reply to this thread, is spam.

oh and i'm nineteen next thursday, and a half qualified accountant, completing all my quals before the end of 2001, not bad for someone who left college after one term at the end of 16 eh?

:)

[HotGalaxy3000]

not bad no, not much older than me remember!! 3yrs not much at all.

Im going to be doin somit with design for AS-level hopefully, any info on whats out there? - I know theres a programming course so i might be taking that up...

[dirtymb]

im 20, doing a degree in comp sci, not very well I might add.
its a pants course too :( no graphics just boring theory or boring programming.
hot, if you wanna get anywhere in this biz I reckon your gonna have to have some form of proper qualificaion, unless your very exceptional.(which i doubt as your only 16)
you'll need a-levels, an art foundation preferably and then you can go on to do a graphic design course. they do computer ones, which show you a load of different packages, i was trying to get my gf to go do on so she can get me a job :)
shes a good artist but she dont know squat about computers doh!
and as for my last post, i have lightwave now, aswell as a partially working copy of 3dsmax. its just too expensive to buy, even a student license costs a bomb, I just dont have that much cash :( so i have to resort to warez