Is JSP as slow as I think it will be ...

[Shadow Templar]

Are Java Server Pages any good ... cause I reckon they might be a bit slow and rubbish ... but I have never found one so I can't tell ... can anyone shed any light on this?

[Elmo]

I heard they were pretty fast actually...

http://www.webmasterbase.com/article.php?aid=305&pid=0

Explains how to set it up etc. and to write your first program. Seems to be pretty positive about it.

I know the guys at gameplay.com also use it on their new bitch/shop helper Jenny or whatever she is called, as I received a rather nice error :D.

Having said that, for simpler projects other than artificial intelligence :), its very reliable.

[mr_grumpy_man]

JSP is:

* cross-platform, server side tech.
* "highly scalable"
* uses JDBC (rather than ODBC as with ASP)
* can be expanded through Javabeans
* is free! :E

But JSP is -

* tough if you're not of a programming disposition
* reliant on JDBC for DB access
* difficult to find hosting for
* not as popular as ASP (hence the above)
* not as many online resources available

If you've got yer own server you can use IBM's WebSphere server, Allaire's Jrun or Netscape's iPLanet Enterprise Server.

Interestingly, Macromedia's Ultradev allows you to generate web apps using JSP :)

[Skunk]

As far as I am aware JSP has the potential to be the fastest of all the server side languages - not sure of the exact details but it seems that you can spread it across multiple servers etc so it's much more upgradable than other stuff.

I think there's a plan in the works to rewrite these forums in JSP (running on Dynamo) as this will allow us to properly spread the load over multiple servers and sort out the bottlenecks that are currently plaguing forum performance.

I've been playing with JSP myself recently (got a BIIG book on Java and installed Tomcat) and it seems pretty neat - gonna have to get my Java up to scratch before doing anything useful with it though.

As far as speed goes it's pretty clever in that the first time you run the script it compiles itself into memory, and then any hits on the same script after that are lightning fast as the thing's already compiled.

[mr_grumpy_man]

/me wonders if thats what 'highly scalable' all means :E

[Skunk]

Yeah, but that's a buzzword :P - and they suck.

[mr_grumpy_man]

Sowwee ;(

/me kills all bees, chainsaws and poorly wired electrical devices...