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Sar
17-01-2001, 13:06
So what way are you gonna be playing the game?

Good or Evil?

Or Neutral?

And why?

:)

lennon
17-01-2001, 13:19
Im undecided I want to see how the game works before I make my decision. I would really like to have a disobidient creature that was the exact opposite of me. But I dont think you can do that.

Sar
17-01-2001, 14:09
You can't. Your actions directly determine what way the creature evolves, mainly because it mimics your actions.

So if you play as a benevolent god, your creature evolves as a good creature. Likewise for Evil and Neutral.

Skunk
17-01-2001, 17:10
I gotta be evil. Cos I want my cow to be evil. Then I'll have an Evil Cow...

Sar
17-01-2001, 18:02
Having relationship troubles Skunk?

;)

I wanna Good Turtle.

It looks funky. :D

Bandito
18-01-2001, 03:29
I think ill go Split-personality 9 cant spell Sktizophrenic ;( ) on this one.

One Monkee - guuuuuuuuuude monkee.....th.....thats right, heeelp the little people, find that womans son etc..

One Monkee - BAAAAD MONKEE!! PUT THAT HUMAN DOWN!! n...no don't eat him ;( I........where are ya goin wiv that tree?!! <SMACK> DANCE!!....<SLAP>...DANCE FOR MEH MONKEE!! AHAHAHAd!..etc..

:monkee:

Bandito
18-01-2001, 03:30
evidentally, i cant do proper brackets either

9 )

99

99999999999999


(9999999)

( 9 ) (9)

()()()())

Sar
18-01-2001, 11:06
Well as long as one of the titans ain't a chicken, cos you'll just try yer best to choke the damn thing ;)

2bad4u
18-01-2001, 11:15
White with a touch of grey thrown in! :z

Izzeh
18-01-2001, 13:12
Black and White doesn't seem to have any proper monkees only big fat apes ;(

We want :monkee:! :cry:

Sar
18-01-2001, 14:28
Well there might be additional downloadable titans available from Lionhead after the game is launched...

:)

pcmonkey
18-01-2001, 16:02
im gonna take a different view on the whole black or white thingy and am just going to play the game and make decisions on the fly. I dont want to set out and try to be iether. In one choice i will probably help someone, but on the next choice i may be busy doing something else, so ill just let the stranded kiddie rot!
PC:monkee:

Lab-Rat
18-01-2001, 16:05
I dont suppose thats a realvent question. Since the titan is supposed to be shaped by your personality. That is if Peter Molyneux is to be belived. So you'd only get a really evil titan, if you are really evil too. It would sort of ruin the point of the game if you sat down at the start and said "Im going to make a really evil titan today".

pcmonkey
18-01-2001, 16:36
my point exactly...though im not sure it would ruin the game :)
PC:monkee:
these boards are so much freindlier than B&W own boards. Most ppl there are complete loons and have a go at anyone who has an opinion

lennon
18-01-2001, 16:47
I know what you mean monkey. I spent a lot of time there when the game was due for release last year and have not been back much coz all they seem to do is flame people for asking relatively sensible questions if a bit repetative.

Ho hum. Surely you can reverse the way in which your image is cast. If you decide you are really evil you must be able to redeem yourself and become only semi-evil?

Glide, TTS
18-01-2001, 18:59
The whole point of the game is that there is no Black or White... Well, there is, but there are so many shades of grey in between that you'd be hard-pushed to be pure evil or good.

I wanna see just what the limits of the AI is going to be like... i want to see if i can just leave my comp running online all day while i'm at work and if my titan has successfully guarded my people or learnt anything while i was away... (me loves my cable)

Sar
18-01-2001, 22:40
Don't forget though, it is an RPG at its core, so you can roleplay a personality completely at odds with your true personality.

Take me for instance, I like to think I'm a fairly good person, but I'll probably roleplay it utterly evil after a while to see the consequences.

And PCMonkey: if you keep switching between good and evil, you're gonna be neutral in the long-run.

;)

pcmonkey
19-01-2001, 11:09
Arrrghhhhh noooooo. I dont want to be MR neutral....Mr Boring Neutral.....Mr cant make up his mind so he stays the same all the way through the game Boring Neutral. Sob Sob ....its unavoidable this is my fate in life...waggghhhhh!
PC:monkee:

Sar
19-01-2001, 11:23
G'wan! Be Evil...you know you can't resist the power of the Dark Side.

:vader:

:E

pcmonkey
19-01-2001, 11:39
NOOOO Your not my father...
Must Resist.....The Dark Side
PC:monkee:

Sar
19-01-2001, 13:06
Strike me down, complete your transition.

:emperorpalpatine:

:E

Izzeh
19-01-2001, 16:17
Rush Sar!
Raaaah! :D

Sar
19-01-2001, 20:35
Well done, you are all officially now Evil *******s (capitalisation intended).

:E

bilston
26-01-2001, 00:03
errr...the things that discussing B&W do to ya :rolling:

:burp: 'scuse me

Sar
26-01-2001, 11:03
:vader: - My work here is done.

Mut
27-01-2001, 05:28
can i be a butterfly?

if i have a good day i could look at posies, if its bad I could crush insolent humans with my death ray eyes?

Sar
27-01-2001, 23:20
Honestly some people just show bad form these days.

Before you start with the death ray eyes, you have to change your name to "MOTHRA!"

See? Rampaging monster etiquette. :E

Me1
28-01-2001, 01:57
Originally posted by Skunk
I gotta be evil. Cos I want my cow to be evil. Then I'll have an Evil Cow...

Yeh but it wont be as good as my evil NINJA cow thou:E.

dogsdinner
03-02-2001, 15:26
Why be black? Why be white?

Join me! Be green, with small dashes of orange in the corners!

Sar
04-02-2001, 01:02
Knowing Peter Molyneaux that will more than likely be entirely possible.

:D

Ozm@
07-02-2001, 04:42
Is it coming to the Dreamcast?

Sar
07-02-2001, 11:54
You don't wanna buy it Ozma - It'll probably scar you for life.

Thought you said you weren't gonna post on these forums ever again?

bilston
07-02-2001, 15:27
he wasnt gonna post in these forums again after 1 post! whassup with that then? :)

dogsdinner
07-02-2001, 15:51
He's the sensible one.

Sar
07-02-2001, 16:36
Bilston: He re-registered.

His original user-name was Ozma (whereas it's now Ozm@), and he was banned for threatening to stab one of the moderators if they were to ever meet.

Go have a look on the GP stuff forum for the threads started by him. He's a very disturbed hyperbole-loving little 17-yr old.

He'd better behave himself.

Ozm@
07-02-2001, 23:43
Yeah well I did actually say that I'd leave when I get a replacement, that replacement hasn't come yet. So I'm allowed to post until next week then when it does :)

Anyway, is Black and White coming to the DC or PS2? It looks great.

Thanks?

Dead Man
08-02-2001, 00:37
May for PS2, and I read somewhere today that they are developing it for DC.


DM

Ozm@
08-02-2001, 03:52
Man I wonder if I should get it for the DC(if it comes in May), or hold out until I get a PS2(I'm getting a PS2 in October for me birthday)?

Sar
08-02-2001, 11:49
Nah go for the DC version. It'll not differ greatly (if at all) from the PS2 version.

Better still get a PC and get the PC version...

Ozm@
08-02-2001, 12:46
I've got a PC. I'm on it now. Only saddo's play games on their PC's though.

Sar
08-02-2001, 13:55
Clarify that please...

Bapapapa
08-02-2001, 17:08
Watch it Sar, he carries a blade....

Sar
08-02-2001, 17:22
Lol

His name is Maximus...

Father of a murdered DC, he will have his vengeance, in this life or the next.

:P

Silent Bro
10-02-2001, 17:00
Maximus that was a good one Sar! <g>

B&W though, will this be another ‘Bullfrog’ almost but not quite game? Up to now I’ve owned and played quite a few, and although they have so much promise and look so good, programming masterpieces even? But there’s always something about them that after a while they just play repetitively.

I may well wait for the budget release to be honest.

ashfelt
11-02-2001, 07:53
That makes no sense at all. (only saddos play games on their Pcs.) SO you have a PC, right, and you only play game on your DC. I'm guessing your PC's a pile of nargle harbit or something, because a console just can't compair to power of a good PC. Games is games play them on the best system you can afford. B&W will be best seen on a PC, your DC will not have the power to give you the best AI or graphics. Neither will a PS2. there main CPU's arn't really all that powerful and they don't really have much RAM. even when the Xbox arrives it won't be as good as a new PC. If you have a good PC then buy B&W for it, you'll get software updates, free add on bits a propper on line game. Only an idiot gets iron when he can get gold for the same price.

Ozm@
11-02-2001, 19:30
Oh do shut up you boring little man.

Sar
12-02-2001, 01:29
I hope you get your DC very very soon, so you can bugger off and never post here ever again...

Ozm@
12-02-2001, 01:57
I think I'll post here forever actually just to piss you off! You, and your gang of grinning idiots who try and take the mick out of me.

ashfelt
12-02-2001, 02:05
I think he likes to be flamed. Makes him feel like somebody cares. Well someone does care and its you mummy, who'll buy you anything you want just to shut you up for half a second. Isn't that sweet. Please don't ignor his plee for attention, he needs LOVE. So flame him till screems in delight. You know he loves it.

Ozm@
12-02-2001, 02:32
Yeah, whatever saddo.

Now all the PC heads go forth! And use your 'broadband' modem to connect to 'Wireplay', and log onto your 'Clan' and play a little 'Quake 3 Arena' with your '64Megabit Voodoo Blaster SCIII Sound card'. Oh you get the drift by now.......

ashfelt
12-02-2001, 04:33
What? You are a strange little child aren't you. Your on a forum about a PC game. Your using a PC to surf the web. You know all the terms about PC gaming. But you dislike PC users. Your a PC user. You need Help, self loathing is not good. Maybe you should destroy the object of your hate. Yes, thats it, that grey box to your right. Go on hit it. No harder this time. Thats the way let it all out. Then you never have to see a PC again.

[Edited by ashfelt on 12-02-2001 at 03:46 AM]

Sar
12-02-2001, 13:55
The short version of this post is: Piss off Ozma.



The long version is: Piss off Ozma, now.

Ozm@
12-02-2001, 18:29
Have you two ever read a column on digitiser called 'Computer Boy'? I think you need to. Consoles are better.

ashfelt
12-02-2001, 19:34
HA Ha HA HA HA HA HA!

MUNKYFUNK
13-02-2001, 13:17
"consoles are better"....better than what? that sentence has no meaning :).........Consoles play games and thats it (apart from the DC which has limited internet abilities)

I digress however:)
The best way to play B&W imho is neutral.If you play as a good god then you won`t have full access to the destructive spells, and visa versa as an evil god.The key is balance, with a slight sway to either side.
It will be fun trying to play a game as pure evil though, just to see how much your tribes loathe you and stop worshiping.
If you kill all the tribes then no-one worships you , so you then have no power........hope that came out right.:)

Sar
13-02-2001, 13:58
Originally posted by Ozm@
Have you two ever read a column on digitiser called 'Computer Boy'? I think you need to. Consoles are better.



Digitiser - The fount of all knowledge.

How could I have been so blind! But of course you're right. If Digitiser says it is so, then it must be! Praise Allah! Praise his holy name, for I have seen the light!



Pfft

Consoles are very limited in their usefulness. And if they are so wonderful, then why are they trying to become more like computers? Surely if consoles were so great PC would be becoming more like Consoles?

You know you're wrong Ozma, give it up already. Because there's not one thing you can say that'll convince me that a console is better than a PC.

Ozm@
13-02-2001, 21:20
Of course PC's are more powerful, but Consoles:

A: Have better games
B: Are cheaper
C: Are more fun

The end.

BTW Sar, I got my replacement DC today, it works fine, but silly gameplay forgot to include 3 of my games. How typical................Are they still a flawless service Sar........

falo
13-02-2001, 21:38
I agree with B. That's about it. In fact, sod about. That is it.

Sar
13-02-2001, 22:00
For the cost of a brand new PS2, I could upgrade my PC by quite a bit.

Plus after buying a collection of games, all of which cost between 1.5 and 2 times what a PC game does, you're running at a loss in comparison to me.

And how are consoles (or their games) more "fun", quantify that statement, because it means nothing. Much like a lot of what you say.

And if DC games are so great, then why has one of it's biggest releases been Q3?

A PC game...

?

Ozm@
14-02-2001, 00:41
Listen in 30 years time people will still remember games like Goldeneye,Final Fantasy and Super Mario bros. All console classics. Nobody will care about Quake 3 part 1,000,000 and the rest of that rushed BOLLO*KS you get on the PC. The best you look forward to are ports of Playstation games like MGS1 and Final Fantasy 7&8 which were full of bugs and slowdown and came months late.

It's a widely known fact that many PC gamers are saddos and nerds who need to play online 'cause they have no friends, and mutter on and on about a load of bloody gibberish PC specs and techs and graphics cards(just like that boring bloke was earlier) you all upgrade you stinking PC every few days to get it 1% better than it was before then cry because your Napster file with 4000 MP3's on it because you cheap ba*****s have no money for a real CD collection accidentaly gets corrupted then e-mail into your crap PC mags and complain.

JUST SHUT UP.FOR GOD'S SAKE.....

BORING.MEN!.

[Edited by Ozm@ on 13-02-2001 at 11:48 PM]

MUNKYFUNK
14-02-2001, 00:49
ROFL:)............how to offend everyone.You don`t get out much do you ozm@?...........or you`re only 13 years old:)................(no offence meant towards normal well adjusted 13 year olds)

Behemoth-100
14-02-2001, 01:06
Erm Ozm@.....Oh i really cant be bothered..!!

Please continue ridiculing yourself.

Behemoth-100
14-02-2001, 01:12
Oh i will say one thing tho - Do you think goldeneye would have existed if it wasnt for doom/quake ?

Space Invaders is a classic - have you got an arcade machine sitting in your filthy slum of a bedroom?

Ok that was two things..

Sar
14-02-2001, 01:33
Actually our young maladjusted young psychopath is a 17 year old Drama queen.

And is increasingly appearing to be the very saddo nerd with no friends that he so despises.

Freud would have a field day with this one.

:P

Sar
14-02-2001, 01:42
Originally posted by Ozm@
Listen in 30 years time people will still remember games like Goldeneye,Final Fantasy and Super Mario bros. All console classics. Nobody will care about Quake 3 part 1,000,000 and the rest of that rushed BOLLO*KS you get on the PC. The best you look forward to are ports of Playstation games like MGS1 and Final Fantasy 7&8 which were full of bugs and slowdown and came months late.

Actually Final Fantasy games are terribly linear, like most Console games in fact.

In 30 years time, people will remember the Dooms, the Ultimas, the Counterstrikes, The Quakes. Not stunted knock offs such as Goldeneye and FF.

As a comparison, compare the likes of Baldurs Gate II to Final Fantasy 8.

No wait, you can't. BG2 has much more depth, better storytelling, stronger plot than a game with the same hackneyed plot which has been recycled in the last 7 versions of the series...

It's a widely known fact that many PC gamers are saddos and nerds who need to play online 'cause they have no friends, and mutter on and on about a load of bloody gibberish PC specs and techs and graphics cards(just like that boring bloke was earlier) you all upgrade you stinking PC every few days to get it 1% better than it was before

Ladies and gentlemen I do believe we have the first documented case of Upgrade envy!

At least we can upgrade, and aren't completely stuck with something which is superceeded within a year...

then cry because your Napster file with 4000 MP3's on it because you cheap ba*****s have no money for a real CD collection accidentaly gets corrupted then e-mail into your crap PC mags and complain.

I actually have a very vast collection of CDs, DVD, Videos, tapes etc. Probably moreso than you'll ever gather with the pitiful money you earn with your paper round. :)

JUST SHUT UP.FOR GOD'S SAKE.....

Couldn't have put it better myself if I'd tried.

:D

Ozm@
14-02-2001, 04:32
You proabably do have more video's, and dvd's than me but I bet you don't have more CD's. Unless you have over 200 albums and about 150 singles I'll let you off.... Then again I may be underestimating your Abba collection *snigger*.


Now for some quotes from Sar:

''In 30 years time, people will remember the Dooms, the Ultimas, the Counterstrikes, The Quakes. Not stunted knock offs such as Goldeneye and FF.''

bull****. Doom, ok I'll give you that. But you call Goldeneye probably the most respected and loved games of the last 5 years a stunted knock off!!!??? And Final fantasy. The last 4 have all sold close to 4 million copies each! How many did the latest Ultima sell Sar???? Ultima online was it? That did terribly.HAHAHAHAHAHAH. People don't forget games as big as the FF series. It's been going for 15 years and it's CONSTANTLY GROWING. HAHAH. you are full of it.That comment just makes you look ignorant. Oh wait, YOU ARE!

''As a comparison, compare the likes of Baldurs Gate II to Final Fantasy 8.

No wait, you can't. BG2 has much more depth, better storytelling, stronger plot than a game with the same hackneyed plot which has been recycled in the last 7 versions of the series...

Ok Stronger plot maybe(FF8 had a weak plot compared to FF6/FF7/FF9), but does it have stronger themes, more action,emotion and design? Just stop now and admit it sar, you've never played FF8 have you, You just go on other peoples opinions. I bet you've never even played any FF game. After all you are a PC fanboy aren't you.Playing a console game would be against you bulls*** code of conduct.

''Ladies and gentlemen I do believe we have the first documented case of Upgrade envy!

At least we can upgrade, and aren't completely stuck with something which is superceeded within a year...

I recall upgrading my N64(RAM PAK). HAHA.STUNNED


And to that guy who said I lived in a filthy slum of a bedroom. That's rich coming from a PC boy like yourself. PC boys have the most untidy nasty stank bedrooms, much more so than a console head like myself. I like a neat room so when my friends come around for 4 player mayem on my CONSOLES the room isn't a mess. I bet you and Sar and the rest of you have tissues scattered around the room with a strange translucent goo on them from all the p0rn0 you look at in between seesions of ''Quake 40.2 Team maddness part deux''.

ashfelt
14-02-2001, 04:50
Originally posted by Silent Bro

B&W though, will this be another ‘Bullfrog’ almost but not quite game? Up to now I’ve owned and played quite a few, and although they have so much promise and look so good, programming masterpieces even? But there’s always something about them that after a while they just play repetitively.

I may well wait for the budget release to be honest.
[/B]

Know what you mean, but lotsa games end up like that, At least this type of game play might have something new to offer. Most games follow a formular we've all played to death.

Thats why I gave my PS1 away. I was bored of the endless driving and beat 'em up games. Everything else needs a mouse and keyboard to do it justice. That's why the DC quake players have to have there own kiddy pool to play in so the big boys don't pick on them.

Mut
14-02-2001, 06:27
Listen Ozma,

We're all pretty open minded people on here, and Im sure most of peeps are ex console gamers. You seem to have an utter lack of respect for people and there opinions yet thrust yours forward like some self righteous arsehole.

You cant put up any decent backup to quantify your claims but prefer to rubbish us on the basis of you fluffed up little stereotypical view of the PC gamers. ( Going on about bedrooms? wtf lol, im sure you do have a clean bedroom m8, well done, have a medal. )

I for one am glad youre a console gamer, as I will never have to meet your sorry self on a server. You've got your console now so maybe take sars advice eh? you know the one I mean.

Either that or post with thought if you cant, dont bother at all, instead run along and watch some WWF or play with your little grey box, with all your mates, in your nice clean bedroom.

Consider this an official warning btw, any more and you will be banned again permanently.

Luv

Muttley

[Edited by Mut on 14-02-2001 at 05:47 AM]

ashfelt
14-02-2001, 07:07
Oz my house is tidy enough for my girlfriend and I spend to many hours playing PC games together on our linked up PCs. For your Console shrunken brain its a bit like trying to crowd round a portable television in your spotlessly tidy and oh so tastfully decorated room with your very speical friends for some four way action, except its much better.

FF8 is not a classic, it was just "good for a console". Golden Eye the same. Now go and play "generic hitting each other 10" or maybe "driving around quite quickly 9"

MUNKYFUNK
14-02-2001, 11:12
By Ozm@-"Ok Stronger plot maybe(FF8 had a weak plot compared to FF6/FF7/FF9), but does it have stronger themes, more action,emotion and design? Just stop now and admit it sar, you've never played FF8 have you, You just go on other peoples opinions. I bet you've never even played any FF game. After all you are a PC fanboy aren't you.Playing a console game would be against you bulls*** code of conduct"

Well I`ve played both, owned every console ever released ( bar DC and PS2).
I take it you`ve never played Baldur`s Gate OZ?......................and what`s wrong with ABBA,just because it`s not your taste in music doesn`t mean it`s no good.

Sar
14-02-2001, 12:15
Actually Ozzy I've played several of the FF games (4,5,6,7), and only used 8 as an example because it was the most recent one therefore giving your limited cranial capacity every chance of recalling which one it was amongst the mish-mash that is the entire series...

UO would maybe sell less than FF because it actually requires *shock* a commitment on behalf of the gamer! Imagine that, actually having to put more effort into a game than left,left, up, right, square, triangle, X, up, up, R1, up. :laugh:

Ok Stronger plot maybe(FF8 had a weak plot compared to FF6/FF7/FF9), but does it have stronger themes, more action,emotion and design?

Yes it does, vastly stronger. And it deals with weightier issues as well. FF is no comparison to one of the greatest RPGs of all time. FF ain't even technically an RPG anymore because it's way too linear. There's no room for divergence from the main plotline in FF, yet there's hundreds of little side plots and stories in BG2.

I bet you've never even played any FF game. After all you are a PC fanboy aren't you.Playing a console game would be against you bulls*** code of conduct.

Guess what I have sitting beside my PCs monitor?

An N64.

I've owned more consoles than you've even played, so don't even try that tack with me son. I've been playing games since before you were even born, so I think I might have a slightly more rounded opinion on games as a whole than you with your limited experience.


I recall upgrading my N64(RAM PAK). HAHA.STUNNED

That's a joke right?

LOL


I bet you and Sar and the rest of you have tissues scattered around the room with a strange translucent goo on them from all the p0rn0 you look at in between seesions of ''Quake 40.2 Team maddness part deux''.

You're so pathetic it's unbelievable. I ain't gonna even dignify that with a proper response...

Now do what I suggested earlier and run along child.

Maybe see if your mummy will buy you some more games so you and your four "friends" (maximum) can have some more "mayhem" in your bedroom...

I'll just pop on a Q3 server with 15 of my mates and have me a real game.

:kiss:

:)

Skunk
14-02-2001, 12:40
I love Ozma

Sar
14-02-2001, 12:46
Possibly the only person alive that does.

:D

Bapapapa
14-02-2001, 13:13
I find Ozma more entertaining than Michael Barrymore.

Hey, maybe that's where Ozma learned all his lines. Being Barrymore's :blitz:

lennon
14-02-2001, 13:54
Sorry chaps but I agree on some points with Ozma. The final Fantasy series is better than many of the PC RPGS available including BG2 and also Diablo 2.

I have no reason to say this if it was not what I truly felt. I am currently replaying FF7 because I enjoyed it that much. Any game that is story driven is almost bound to be fairly linear but having said that I have just made a decision in FF7 to not help somebody that I could have done so that sort of stops it from being linear.

BG2 is good and I enjoyed Diablo 2 but I did not find them any where near as good as FF7.

Consoles are better than pcs in the respect that once you own it you dont have to worry about whether the games will run in two years time. I have just had to spend nearly £300 to make my pc run a couple of the latest games. The same cost of a ps2. I wont be upgrading again.

Ozm@
14-02-2001, 16:14
''15 mates on a server''. Listen you have your mates a deathmatch on the PC, while I take 15 mates and have a social life away from a bloody screen. Lets just leave it at that. I really am not jealous of you. You are sad.

I hope you lot stick to your PC's and keep the hell away from consoles with your crap traditions.

Face it you will have to all buy the next-gen console systems anyway as the PC games market is collapsing, nobody is buying the games, people see you as sad. The best PC games sales have got is WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE. Terrible game. But it's the only one that sells. And don't say that's on the DC and PSX so they are to blame because everybody knows 3/4 of that game's sales were on the PC so sad little families with a 100mhz intel celeron PC can all play together. That's the state of the PC games market. nobody is interested.

That's why smart people like me buy the consoles,play the BEST games, don't p*ss about with settings and upgrades,and have a social life at the same time.While you lot sit on your own biting your nails wondering why the last version of Quake only sold 10,000 copies while Final Fantasy games and Rareware games continue to sell millions. The End.

Ozm@
14-02-2001, 16:23
An Lennon made a good point. FINAL FANTASY 7. A console game. Better than ANY PC game EVER. No arguement there. You lot compare that to Ultima Online and say people will remember that in 30 years BUT WON'T REMEMBER FF7!!!????Idiots!

I recall it came to the PC 8 months later with loads of bugs and slowdown, published by Eidos for gods sake.Didn't sell at all well because everyone already had the PSX version that you could just pick up and play without any hassle.

PSX: 1.
PC: 0

Sar
14-02-2001, 17:08
Aren't you the chap that thought Doom was an original Playstation game?

:laugh:

Anyway Ozzy, just shut up. You're only embarrassing yourself more and more...

The depths to which you'll try to trawl in order to make your (inaccurate) point is laughable..

Please, just be quiet.

MUNKYFUNK
14-02-2001, 17:19
Let him carry on, it`s funny watching ozm@ getting wound up:)............everyone can see what a silly boy he is

MUNKYFUNK
14-02-2001, 18:15
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ozm@

Face it you will have to all buy the next-gen console systems anyway as the PC games market is collapsing, nobody is buying the games, people see you as sad. The best PC games sales have got is WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE. Terrible game. But it's the only one that sells. And don't say that's on the DC and PSX so they are to blame because everybody knows 3/4 of that game's sales were on the PC so sad little families with a 100mhz intel celeron PC can all play together. That's the state of the PC games market. nobody is interested.

Look on the Gameplay homepage........oh dear, Who wants to be a millionare on PS and DC:)

Oh look, B&W is the second most pre-ordered game.....ahead of FF 26.......oh look, B&W is being converted to all the consoles,it`s designed to be played with the mouse (1 hand needed)so how well will it play on a joypad:)

bilston
14-02-2001, 18:52
Pc games offer more depth than any console game because theyre all remakes of Pokemon or summat daft like Bugs bunny runs along (wow!)

fu.ck off ozm@
oh and your name now reads Ozmat - i wipe my feet on j00, you 0wned little Pr!ck.
GO SAR!! :E

Goose2
14-02-2001, 19:19
Perhaps someone should introduce Ozm@ to ReaperUK from the qw boards i while back

Behemoth-100
14-02-2001, 19:22
Ozm@ i used to be an avid console gamer - i loved x-com nme unknown on the PSX, wasnt a big fan of ff7, and yes loved goldeneye. In fact it was goldeneye that made me want a PC for there are loads more FPShooters on PC. I dont have a console at all now, and cant see that changing. The PC/home computer will, and always has been the platform for innovation in gaming. Name any well known Console game and ill show you thats its roots lie in a PC/home computer game.('Chu Chu Rocket' doesnt count! :E)

I agree consoles have their moments - but for a social device? Id much rather go down the pub with my m8s or out to a club.

I dont play PC/console games for social reasons - its purely selfish, i love to imerse myself in a game world - in my opinion PC games do that far better than most console games, with a few exceptions.

Just what do you think all these 'all-powerful-and-simply-superior' console games are created on in the first place?

*cough*a PC*cough*

MUNKYFUNK
14-02-2001, 19:42
CHU CHU ROCKET...........hehe..........that`s BOMBERMAN,originally on the amiga:)

Ozm@'s Mum
15-02-2001, 02:45
Shhh! Now everyone.

I've sung Ozm@ a lullaby and put him to bed.

I must apologise for my son's behaviour. He was dropped on his head as a child which means he has learning difficulties and the memory of a goldfish. Which goes someway to explaining why he thinks console games have more depth than PC ones.

Sorry again for the trouble,

Ozm@'s Mum.

Ozm@
15-02-2001, 06:20
Wow, the maturity of this forum astonishes me. I have a pretty good idea who you are already. But c'mon, show your true identity you fu*ker. Stupid punk that's all you are. Hiding behind a false nick, how d*ckless........

ashfelt
15-02-2001, 09:57
Thats no way to talk to your mother. Shame on you.

lennon
15-02-2001, 10:20
Ive got to admit it does make me laugh that people have a go at this bloke and then stoop to the same depths. Come on people leave it be. There is a valid place for both pc and console.

I actually think that the ps2 joypad might be as good for controlling b&w as a mouse although the gesture recognition may prove tricky we shall see.

As for pcs well they are crap for sports sims. Also I dont think there has ever been a game like Crash Bash or mario Party on the pc. Well not that I know of.

As for consoles they are not as good for multiplayer or FPS. Although I do love timesplitter but it is no counter strike.

I think the pc industry is in a bit of a mess in genreal and needs to reinvent itself. Hence the X-box. No matter what anyone says to get the best gaming on the pc on average you will need to spend probably at leat £100 a year where as a console probably averages about £50 a year.

Ozm@ people are allowed an opinion. It is much better to argue your corner with a resoned opinion such as FF7 is a great game because...

Dont forget games are all about opinion what I like others dont.

Silent Bro
15-02-2001, 11:22
I agree with Lennon, it's about time you guys stopped picking on Ozm@ as it’s getting close to cyber-bullying and for you Ozm@ not to rise to the bait with threats (I’ve read some of your earlier messages elsewhere and you didn’t start off this angry all the time).

Respect others as you would like to be yourself!

Sar
15-02-2001, 11:49
Originally posted by Goose
Perhaps someone should introduce Ozm@ to ReaperUK from the qw boards i while back

Reaper would have had Ozzy for breakfast.

:P

[Edited by Sar on 15-02-2001 at 10:53 AM]

Sar
15-02-2001, 11:52
Originally posted by lennon
Ive got to admit it does make me laugh that people have a go at this bloke and then stoop to the same depths.

Nah, Ozzy can't string a coherent argument together to support his views, then when these flaws are pointed out to him he resorts to mindless threats and insults.

Really intelligent lad...

(Hope the sarcasm was evident enough in that previous sentence)

:)

Sar
15-02-2001, 12:06
Originally posted by Ozm@
An Lennon made a good point. FINAL FANTASY 7. A console game. Better than ANY PC game EVER. No arguement there.

Says who?

FF7 was ok for it's time, but it's hardly anywhere near the greatest game of all time. Puhlease. Shallow plot, limited characterisation, random battles whose outcome relied on luck more than anything, crass dialogue, sorry but no. It was ok as a game, but nothing compared to BG2 for example.




You lot compare that to Ultima Online and say people will remember that in 30 years BUT WON'T REMEMBER FF7!!!????Idiots!

UO - First persistent online world which was largely built by the people inhabiting it.

FF7 - Simplistic RPG. One of a series. Forgotten in 10 years.


I recall it came to the PC 8 months later with loads of bugs and slowdown, published by Eidos for gods sake.

What has the publisher got to do with anything?

If you're gonna argue at least have something to argue for..

lennon
15-02-2001, 12:39
Now again where as I dont agree with Ozm@ I also dont agree with you at all Sar.

The plot in FF7 was by no means shallow. In fact it is nice to play a game that has some story to it. The characters develop throughout the game but are fairly wooden although some of this may be due to translation. Yes the battles are fairly random but the outcome has nothig to do with luck. It has to do with knowing what enemies are effected by what attacks and knowing which characters are best for what job.

I agree it may not be the best game of all time but it is easily comparable to BG2 and Diablo 2 which in my opinion had very little plot whatsoever.

I dont think any RPG could be said to be the best game ever. I think that award probably goes to Half-Life and all its mods.

Sar
15-02-2001, 12:44
Nah, that's just the most played...

8@RT
15-02-2001, 13:13
hey it should be out this friday aint it?? :)

Sar
15-02-2001, 13:50
Heh

I wish

:D

lennon
15-02-2001, 13:53
If you are talking about FF9. Then yes it is. If not then I have lost the plot!

Sar
15-02-2001, 13:55
I assumed he was talking about B&W.

If not then I've lost the plot as well then :D

Ozm@
15-02-2001, 17:57
Nah you're stupid. FF7 won't be forgotten in 10 years. Comparing FF7 to Ultima Online is like comparing Jennifer Lopez to Margret Thatcher.......

Sar
15-02-2001, 18:01
*sigh*

Go away little man.

bilston
15-02-2001, 18:03
Yeah who likes Jennifer Lopez anyway? :{

ashfelt
15-02-2001, 18:09
He's back once again with d4 damage of his ill behavour.

*hic*

lennon
15-02-2001, 18:12
Hey guys has anyone seen this wad of paper I had. It had the word PLOT written on it and I seem to have misplaced it.

Ozm@ I have had enough of you fancy comparing Jlo to Maggie. This is senseless. I would choose Madge any day of the week :)

Silent Bro
15-02-2001, 22:04
Originally posted by Sar
[QUOTE]If you're gonna argue at least have something to argue for..

When my 386 25sx was a top of the range PC, my Mega Drive had some very good games, like Road Rash and Sonic. Consoles with games like those killed the home computer market. Mind you when Doom came out for the 486 all that changed, (forget Quake, this is the real game that will be remembered in 1000 years time and most likely will still be played as it is today) but that's how the wheel turns.

Personally I prefer computer-based games to console ones, so I’ll always own one. :)

Sar
16-02-2001, 10:56
Yeah I had a Snes and a Megadrive, but now PCs rule the gaming market for quality of games. Ever since the first 3D cards by 3DFX came out really...

bilston
16-02-2001, 11:18
Originally posted by Sar
Ever since the first 3D cards by 3DFX came out really...
Ooooh I remember that day well when meh first Voodoo1 came thru the door! The click that it made was great! :E
And the graphics! Wh00t :)

Silent Bro
16-02-2001, 12:40
I would (and have <g>) said it was slightly before 3Dfx cards which came out after Quake 1. Up till then the PC was the game machine, with no contenders, well until the N64 and Play Station, which sold by the bucket load. But unlike before, the increased sales of consoles didn’t destroy the home computer market. I have 2 theories for this, the first being this was the start of the mass media focus on the internets and everyone was trying to get online, and the second the 3dfx card which elevated PC graphics higher than the consoles at the time, which is what you’ve said. But it was a neck and neck race, and still is, as the consoles are cheaper to buy.

My main fears for the PC platform are the developers who are flocking to the console market, as it’s easier to sell glossy games there and we need them for the quality PC games. It’s my opinion that computers have always survived because of their games requiring some intelligent play to win, and that appeals to a certain market, which isn’t what a console owner looks for in a game.

ashfelt
16-02-2001, 17:21
PC games are very different from Console games. The Harddrive alone gives the developers alot of freedom. On the play station it took a whole cartridge to save a game for enermy unknown. Thats just one example, internet game updated, mouse and keyboard (Almost no-one got the playstion mouse, so almost no game supported it, even those that should.) So I'm staying with my PC they make game for it That I want to play.

Sar
16-02-2001, 17:46
Originally posted by Silent Bro
It’s my opinion that computers have always survived because of their games requiring some intelligent play to win...which isn’t what a console owner looks for in a game.


Sums it all up really.

:)

Silent Bro
17-02-2001, 01:37
Yes, but my comments do not mean that consoles don't have a place of value, or that they don’t produce the best games for their capture market. If PC's are to chess and consoles are to football, I believe that you’ll see a U curve as to which game people would rather be playing most often. With that sort of comparison it’s easier to understand why console owners do not like PC games and vice versa as both football and chess are good real life games.

MUNKYFUNK
17-02-2001, 02:06
I like consoles and PC`s........just IMHO console games are shallow...........except for Resident Evil:)...........I could argue other points aswell........but can`t be arsed:p

Ozm@
17-02-2001, 02:10
I wouldn't bother wasting your time. They all shall be known to me from this day forth as the 'Fragging Faggots'.lol.

cleoteo
17-02-2001, 02:30
Lol shouldn't you be in bed in by now young man?? :tongue:

bilston
17-02-2001, 11:22
hey! its better than being you

Sar
17-02-2001, 21:01
Originally posted by Ozm@
I wouldn't bother wasting your time. They all shall be known to me from this day forth as the 'Fragging Faggots'.lol.

So you've bought Q3 for your DC already then?

Fragging Faggot?

Pfft. Base. Very base.

Ozm@
18-02-2001, 20:23
No I haven't actually.STUN!

Quake sucks!

DVS
18-02-2001, 20:38
Stop arguing over such petty sh!t you screwy little children. You are arguing over which computer games are better ffs! Would you dare do that in your local high school? Different people have different tastes so like different games. Ozm@ likes what he likes not because he's a pr!ck, but because he's an individual. Same goes for anyone else. It is senseless arguing that one game is better than another because one side will never get the other to agree - THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES. Just accept it. I like Deus Ex, Half-Life atm and probably will love Black and White, Team Fortress 2 and Red Faction when they're out. No amount of arguing is gonna change that cos I know what I played and what I thought of them. Sar, you should really get out more - it isn't healthy to have so many posts, do you know what year it is? :P
C'mon people, talk sensibly or don't talk at all. :|

MUNKYFUNK
18-02-2001, 21:30
High school? they`d kick me out for being a bit too old:)

gandalf1
18-02-2001, 22:29
IGNORE

[Edited by gandalf1 on 18-02-2001 at 09:33 PM]

bilston
19-02-2001, 00:34
Can someone please close this GODDAMN THREAD!!!! I'm fed up of keeping getting those bloody email notifications of this thread!

Sar
19-02-2001, 02:27
You wouldn't get notifications AFAIK, it only applies to the person who starts the thread (me).

Anyhow, I find it amusing that DVS can be so diplomatic when it comes to gaming tastes, yet when it comes to usage of the forums he gets his knickers in a twist.

:laugh:

DVS
19-02-2001, 15:32
Originally posted by DVS
Sar, you should really get out more - it isn't healthy to have so many posts, do you know what year it is? :P
C'mon people, talk sensibly or don't talk at all. :|


Exactly which bit of that light-hearted jibe illustrates knicker-twisting pre-tell? :wink:

Sar
19-02-2001, 16:29
"Prey, tell" perchance?

;)

DVS
19-02-2001, 17:37
Now you're just trying to nit-pick at a quick-typer. Whisp out your Latin dictionary and I think you'll find "pre" is correct in terms of the phrase's origins. You are talking to a master of langwidges so wotch it! :wink:

[Edited by DVS on 19-02-2001 at 04:40 PM]

MUNKYFUNK
19-02-2001, 17:50
http://www.stone-dead.asn.au/silly-stuff/spam/main.html


That`s all I can be arsed to say:)

Spider Jerusalem
19-02-2001, 18:11
Meandering back on topic with a quick two-penn'orth

I'll be doing my level best to drive my critter into a schitzoid coma with wildly contradictory, and seemingly motiveless commands.

Silent Bro
20-02-2001, 01:54
Sounds like normal game AI to me <g>

go here [click], no damit here [click-click], not round that rock [click] there's a flipping monster there stupid! [click-click-click] stop running towards it [click] end game :bigcry:

[Edited by Silent Bro on 20-02-2001 at 12:57 AM]

Ozm@
22-02-2001, 05:47
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA PC HEADS AHAHAHAAHAHA.

You wanna diss Final Fantasy huh Sar and gang, well take a lookie lookie at the charts and you'll see that HAHAHAHA FINAL FANTASY IX is number one replacing Who Wants to be a millionaire after 20 weeks at number 1. I laugh in the face of you Sar. You said that FF games will be forgotten within a few years, well this is now documented in history as the game that toppled the record breaking WWTBAM so STUN TO YOU HAHAHAHAHA.

cleoteo
22-02-2001, 10:49
Oh please do SHUT UP!!!!!!!! Doesn't matter if you love it,someone else won't......no matter how much you argue you won't change their opinion....if everyone had the same opinion the world would be a very boring place.

/me waits for a mod on this forum :tongue:

Sar
22-02-2001, 11:17
Oh ffs Ozmat stfu. Of course it's #1, it's on the PSX and it's just been released.

Duh.

Now go away you moron.

MUNKYFUNK
22-02-2001, 11:28
ROFL..........so you must like Westlife and steps Ozma..........they get to number 1 so they must be good.................getting 1st place in a chart doesn`t mean something is good, it just means it`s popular with all the little sheep,,,,,,,,,,,,baaaaaaaa baaaaaaaa baaaaa:)

Sar
22-02-2001, 12:59
Lol

And he must read Barbara Cartland and Catherine Cookson novels, wear Levi's, drink Pepsi, read the Sun, watch Bob the builder (and have the BtB single natch).

Ooh like Five Ozmat? They're fantastic. And surely the Spice girls must be amongst historys greatest songwriters going by your popularity=quality theology.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

2bad4u
22-02-2001, 13:50
Originally posted by Sar
Lol

And he must read Barbara Cartland and Catherine Cookson novels, wear Levi's, drink Pepsi, read the Sun, watch Bob the builder (and have the BtB single natch).

Ooh like Five Ozmat? They're fantastic. And surely the Spice girls must be amongst historys greatest songwriters going by your popularity=quality theology.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

/me tries to visualise

/me pukes

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 14:44
Id Like to say White - But I'd probably stay Gray.

Anyway soz to but in this very Amuzing argument :laugh: , but is the release date still 30th March?

If it is released before that date - Will GamePlay distribute the game earlier? Or am i just a :dork:

MUNKYFUNK
22-02-2001, 15:19
AFAIK it`s still on for a march 30th release date.

Ozm@
22-02-2001, 15:27
PI$$ OFF!!!

I'm into hip hop music actually, that's FAR too hardcore for you babies, you'd all run off cyring.....

What music are you all into then? Probably crap like Coldplay,Oasis, TRAVIS....bunch of bloody hippies! Oh wait and then lets not forget Abba!

MUNKYFUNK
22-02-2001, 15:36
Ozma.......go away you silly little boy.You can`t even generate a reasonable argument, and everyone thinks you are sad...........go watch some WWF:)

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 16:02
I'm into the Oldskool :) Cant beat a Good Piano Riff, or Breakbeat.

Oh and Give up on Ozm@ now. Taking the pi$$ out of whatever music he likes is, well a little childish. :)

[Edited by LeeDJ on 22-02-2001 at 03:08 PM]

Sar
22-02-2001, 16:12
Hip-hop? Hardcore?

*snigger*

:laugh:

<--Eminem, Pantera, loads of Dance/house/trance/ambient music.

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 16:22
Booyaka Booyaka - Whistle Posse *boom*boom*boom*

:rolleyes:

Ozm@
22-02-2001, 17:29
*And still they fail to tell us what music they're into*

*SNIGGER*

........bitch

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 17:48
Originally posted by Sar
<--Eminem, Pantera, loads of Dance/house/trance/ambient music. Psssst :P

Sar
22-02-2001, 17:50
Blind and Dumb.

Pity we can't test for deafness on here isn't it.

I SAID IT'S A PITY, ISN'T IT OOZEMAT?!

:laugh:

Bapapapa
22-02-2001, 17:57
I like Frank, Dino & Harry Connick Jr. :D

Ozm@
22-02-2001, 18:04
Whay are you calling me Ozemat? Who the F is that? just show how much of a w*nker you really are.

Bunch of hippies that's all you are. Go play on your guitars TWANG TWANG TWANG COWBOOOOY, im into Rap and hiphop I don't care what you say about it.And to the person who said I like Steps because it's number one, well guess what a rap song(Outkast) may be going to number one this week SO STUN TO YOU AND STUNNER TO EVERYONE!

Bapapapa
22-02-2001, 18:24
Ozma - STUN off you STUNNINGLY STUNNED STUNNER!! :D

Is STUN the Ozma equivalent of the word SMURF that the :smurf:s use to describe anything?

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 18:26
BIG up yo'self Ozm@. I'd rather not know what Tunes are at #1 - there all P4i\iT$

MUNKYFUNK
22-02-2001, 18:27
Learn to spell Ozma..........if you would care to read my post, you would see that I was comparing you to............................ahh forget it I can`t be bothered and your tiny little head wouldn`t be able to comprehend:)

MUNKYFUNK
22-02-2001, 18:28
OI Ozma, go and have a look at the ladies underwear in the Kays catalogue......that`s about your level isn`t it? :)

LeeDJ
22-02-2001, 18:37
Wow Guys Give it up, what relevance is this to Black & White. Oh yeah...at the moment Im posting as White, you have chosen to post as Black....very loose connection to the Game....OOh I'll get my coat :emb:

2bad4u
22-02-2001, 19:55
I'm sure peeps have been banned for less crap than this...

:rolleyes:

-=AC=-Earlgrey
23-02-2001, 13:05
OMG, It's turned into the CS forum

Sar
23-02-2001, 13:24
Yer, thanks Oozemat.

Pfft.

:P

Ozm@
23-02-2001, 14:01
Ok namecalling then is it? SARdines?

Sar
23-02-2001, 15:39
Nope, that's what you've called yourself.

:)

Ozm@
23-02-2001, 16:18
What the hell are you talking about??? GGGGRRRRHH!!! You are so stupid and annoying! I just want to kick you in the face! GGGRRRRHHH!

MUNKYFUNK
23-02-2001, 19:47
LOL...........17yr old geek tries to kick 23yr old Belfast bloke in the face..........ummmmmmm wonder if the geek gets knee-capped:wink:..................j/k btw:)

Behemoth-100
23-02-2001, 21:22
oopsie *double-post*

Behemoth-100
23-02-2001, 21:22
ozm@, have you got a pc?
are you going to buy B&W?
IF its released on dreamcast or ps2?
When will that happen?
WHy are you here?

WHERES A MODERATOR WHEN YOU NEED ONE?

as far as i know this is a black and white forum, am i right?
as far as i know this isnt a "spoilt little console bitch who thinks hes hardcore cos hes 'into' rap" forum.

Ahhh what a poor poor demented child we have here... I bet you think your cool cos you smoke aswell, and THE NUTS cos you wear moschino... nah too up-market for you sonny, your a kappa boy arent you?

Yeaaaaaaah bitch - look at my matching kappa shell suit and trainers.... im bad.... bleedin suburban gangster.. lol .. rap and pen-knives and neatly mown front lawns. ***HARDCORE***

Sar
23-02-2001, 23:34
Originally posted by Sar
Lol

Don't worry, you're easily confused.

:D

Ok, so how did I post that over an hour from now?

Mut/Velv you been playing silly buggers again with the post times? ;)

[Edited by Sar on 23-02-2001 at 10:38 PM]

Sar
23-02-2001, 23:36
Originally posted by MUNKYFUNK
LOL...........17yr old geek tries to kick 23yr old Belfast bloke in the face..........ummmmmmm wonder if the geek gets knee-capped:wink:..................j/k btw:)

*cough*25 year old Belfast bloke*cough*

FS, you'd think members of your own clan would know what age you were!

;)

cleoteo
23-02-2001, 23:59
lol Sar he was close..... its his old age :tongue:

oh and that post has been like that all day.

Sar
24-02-2001, 00:38
Hehe

And the odd thing is I can still edit it, even though it was posted a good 7 hours ago....

:rolling:

Sar
24-02-2001, 00:51
Originally posted by Ozm@
What the hell are you talking about??? GGGGRRRRHH!!! You are so stupid and annoying! I just want to kick you in the face! GGGRRRRHHH!

Lol

Don't worry, you're easily confused.

:D

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 03:45
I may only be 17, but I's take some Irish farmer(Sar) any day of the week. 17 year olds aren't small you know! Bloody IRISH he'd be too pissed to even stand up,hell I could slap him in the face(OH PLEASE LORD LET ME) and he'd fall straight down onto his stinkin' arse.

Sar
24-02-2001, 04:15
Lol

At least get your friggin nationalities right.

Belfast = Northern Ireland = British.

Or are you deficient in your education as well as everything else?

Oh and Farmer?

Lol!

/nick Old McDonald

Old McDonald had a mat

E-I-E-I-O

And on this mat he had some Ooze

E-I-E-I-O

With a squelch squelch here

And a squelch squelch there

Here a squelch

There a squelch

Everywhere a squelch squelch

Old McDonald had a mat

E-I-E-I-O

:laugh:

Oh no, he's got a gun!

I think it's an Oozey-9mm.

:laugh:

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 04:50
Oh.My.GOD!

You are just SOOOOOOOO annoying and unfunny. Did you get created in a queerboy machine or something?

Anyway.....Ireland,Northern Ireland....... who really gives a S***? You'll always be Irish to me.Us English don't want you lot associated with us in any way. Your silly religion,soldiers and bombing. You Irish don't belong in Britain, you belong in the middle-east with the rest of the gun-toting lunatics!

Now kindly concede defeat and go waste your feeble farmer Giles life away using all your brain power deciding weather you're a Catholic or a Protestant!

[JA]JEnKiNs
24-02-2001, 06:29
I take it you're going to be an evil Titan then Ozmat?

Oh ya, soz everyone.. Ill just explain...

@ - "at"

@ - "aaaaaaaaaaat"

Got that?

"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt"

Can you repeat after me?

"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt"

Good.

Have a gold star.

DONT STAB ME!!!!!

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 07:33
Yeah well the only reason I'm called Ozm@ is because I was once called Ozma and some dip**** banned me for no reason at all apart from that I outsmarted every member of the board.

Behemoth-100
24-02-2001, 15:32
Yes im sure you were banned because you 'outsmarted' everyone on the messageboard.

Well done boy.

Your great...

Do you realise how many of us want to be JUST like you? Cos your hardcore being into rap n'all. Can you show me your penknife techniques again?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEAAAAAAAASE.....

/me wishes he was as wittless and smart! as osm@..

Im so sad that im not like you - you are such a talented and witty young boy? WHAT YOU ARENT?? - DAMN... i guess ill have to find another role model then.


THUUUUUUUUUUG life y'all know the rules, better do what ya gotta do.. does that make me hardcore too?

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 17:13
Ok then smart-arse, what is YOUR definition of Hardcore music? Coldplay???? HAHAHAHAHA.

Behemoth-100
24-02-2001, 17:32
your a real tit arent you..

My definition of hardcore music is 'HARDCORE' tadaaaa, you know the predecessor to jungle/d&b.....

Sigh - who defines if something is hardcore? if you think listening to rap and pouting in front of a mirror with an imaginary gun makes you hardcore - thats up to you, but the rest of the world will still think your a wittless prepubecent, with no purpose in life other than to irritate people.

Now go tie a bandanna around your head and hang about infront of a shop somewhere.

Btw if you dont know where my quote was from, your not much of a rap fan are you. A hardcore rap fan doesnt mean buying the few commercial rap singles in the uk pop charts. You stank-foot-little-tosser.....

cleoteo
24-02-2001, 17:34
Why has music gotta be hardcore to be good???????

Behemoth-100
24-02-2001, 17:37
There is no hardcore music, only hardcore fans. Which you are not, you are most definately soft-core, small time, built like a whippet. If you came face to face with the majority of the people youve insulted on these boards and tried it - youd be off whelping to your m8's for some gang back up.

I know your type boy, all mouth no muscle, first sight of trouble and your off...

Whippet....yap yap

cleoteo
24-02-2001, 17:48
Well after reading this thread Ozmat, you've slagged off everyone who owns a pc,everyone who isn't into "hiphop" and everyone who lives in Ireland......well done you're clearly a racist who has no friends.... I just hope that when my nephews get to your age that they've learnt to respect other ppls opinions.

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 19:21
The quote was from 2pac I think.He used to always shout THUG LIFE and had it tattooed on his chest. Not sure though, I have ALOT of CD's. I'm not just some git that buys a few singles. I have been into rap for 8 years so F*** YOU! STUN!

Oh and you keep telling yourself I have no friends if it makes you feel better, I know what's happening in my life and I know that I have friends so it really doesn't bother me. You don't know a damn thing do you! HAHAHAHA.

You lot are so lame. God! You don't think rap is hardcore? I have numerous CD's that were actually BANNED in the UK for their content. I own albums like Efil4zaggin by NWA which was banned. Not that I expect you lot to know anything about that album.

You all think you're SO bloody smart trying to steriotype me, well it isn't working! So bugger off back to your pubs and drink Boddingtons Bitter listening to ya crappy Rock/house music twanging away on your guitars. Now that's a TRUE steriotype of you lot!

Lemonmaster
24-02-2001, 19:48
Stop saying stun goddamnit!!!

Its not as if it even means anything (except to you obviously) and it certainly isnt helping you convince anyone that any of your points are valid.

:/

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 19:56
Ahhhhhhhhhh p*ss off and go master some lemons you freakin geek......

Lemonmaster
24-02-2001, 20:05
Droll.

Very droll.

:/

cleoteo
24-02-2001, 20:22
Ozmat..... oh f**k it can't be arsed to reply anymore.....perhaps if we ignore him he'll p*ss off and grow up ...

/me waits :tongue:

DVS
24-02-2001, 21:02
AGGRRHHH! Pack it in you t!ts! Pack it in! Ozm@ get a frigging life - if these people p!ss you off (like you obviously do them!) why the hell do you keep coming here. It's not as if their opinion matters, is it? You don't see them every day so why are you keeping this frantic squabbling going? Until you stop being such a knob-jockey, they have my full support. :|

Behemoth-100
24-02-2001, 21:22
Ozm@ - your the one who started with the stereotypes. Youve got your opinion on PCs and PC gamers -fair enough- but frankly we dont care. So the question is :- why are you even bothering?

Ozm@
24-02-2001, 21:54
Oh well, I know you all REALLY deep down want me to stick around as it gives you something to do, but I'm off for a night out.

See you losers tomorrow morning!

Sar
25-02-2001, 15:16
We'll see...

:(

Sar
25-02-2001, 15:23
BTW: Oozemat, you were banned because you threatened to kill a moderator on the GP Stuff forum, and generally got on like a drama queen.

Oh and your post about the Protestant and Catholics?

Quite clearly shows you haven't the first clue what the Troubles have been all about.

You rascist *******.

:(

bilston
25-02-2001, 15:43
Someone please moderate this forum so this thread can be shut down. I beg of you. I vote me and Sar to be B&W forum Mod's coz Sar has the most posts on it and I just fancy "Moderator" under my name...

PS. Stop replying Ozmat, my inbox is filled with "Gameplay - forums post manager: Reply to post "Black or White"" and quite frankly I'm a little pissed off with it.

Sar
25-02-2001, 15:50
Bilston: Set up a message rule to send all those notices to your deleted items folder as soon as they're received.

And change the option to receive them in your profile...

:)

bilston
25-02-2001, 15:52
But then I won't recieve the notifications I actually want. Can't a mod just shut this thread?

Sar
25-02-2001, 16:41
No.

Just because you've got mail notification on isn't justification for closing a thread. Should this also apply to all threads you've made a reply to once you've lost interest in them?

Switch the option off in your profile, then switch it on in those threads you're interested in when you're making your reply (look at the checkbox just above Show Signature, it's to send you your notifications).

[Edited by Sar on 25-02-2001 at 03:47 PM]

Celchu
25-02-2001, 16:58
Ozm@ cut the abuse. Wireplay is a comunity and when someone such as yourselve starts insulting long time members it upsets alot of people. My advise to Ozm@ is keep it shut and only give out useful coments or take part in disscussions like a grown boy instead of trying to start a flame war.

Hopefully u will stop the senseless abuse NOW and maybe earn some respect.
Say sorry to Sar and plz stop insulting people concerning were they come from and the history of there area. U won't earn any 'friends' by keeping it up.

Now lets play nice before Velvet gets called in again to sought out agrument (his a busy guy and i'm sure playing diplomat in arguments is the last thing he will be wanting to do).

Regards Celchu.

Ozm@
25-02-2001, 17:02
How ironic, an Irishman calls me rascist......

What a strange place this is! It seems everyone can be offensive towards me as much as they want, but when I get offensive back it's a crime!

Celchu
25-02-2001, 17:05
Ozm@ plz mate no more, lets just calm down and move onto a new topic. OK ?

Ð33
25-02-2001, 19:17
I don't usually get involved in flames *ahem*
but I read earlier that Ozma said he got banned because he "outsmarted" everyone..

He did infact get banned for :

Pissing off the majority of the Wireplay community
Saying untrue things about Gameplay
Threatening to kill me ( but I get that daily ;) )
and generally making himself look a fool :D

[Edited by Ð33 on 25-02-2001 at 06:32 PM]

Celchu
25-02-2001, 19:33
ummm i've managed to keep him quiet...plz don't make him start again....

Sar
26-02-2001, 00:40
Originally posted by Ozm@
How ironic, an Irishman calls me rascist......

You clearly have no idea what the situation here is about, so please don't comment on it any further.

BBW
26-02-2001, 03:43
heh, ozm@, where you live man, your so cool, I'd really like to hang wit j00. Mebe we could listen to some of them phat chooons you got. Heh ;)

I love it when these kids say stuff like, 'I'm not one of them... blah blah' when nobody actually said they were, which maybe suggests that they think they are themselves.

Then they say 'I'm going on a night out' raaaaa, you git! We don't get to go out, fs, all we get to do is spam these boards. :/


And...'I'm 17' which means, I'm like old enough to smoke, but not vote, but yet I preach politics, grrr. And I must tell you how old i am cause I sound 12. :naughty:

I mean, oazm@(?), if you were comfortable with your age/persona/life you wouldn't need to give us so many personal details, would you. :cheese:

Hit me back, just to chat, your biggest fan, BBW. :)

Sar
26-02-2001, 12:09
Lol

Wolfeh, this is the B&W forum, not the BBW forum :P

Qball
26-02-2001, 12:44
Originally posted by Ozm@


Anyway.....Ireland,Northern Ireland....... who really gives a S***? You'll always be Irish to me.Us English don't want you lot associated with us in any way.

Please speak only for yourself and not for a nation as your a racist arsewipe and no-one in England would agree with you. In fact Us English don't want you associated with us in any way :p

Sar
26-02-2001, 16:21
Well he's been banned now, so hopefully we won't have to suffer his rantings anymore...

Hungover
27-02-2001, 00:23
Originally posted by Sar
Well he's been banned now, so hopefully we won't have to suffer his rantings anymore...

Shame, some of his posts have given me the biggest laugh I've had in weeks.


17 year olds aren't small you know!!!:laugh:

[JA]JEnKiNs
27-02-2001, 04:20
Hoorah!

Now then..

Back to the topic...

Mines going to be more evil than Rod Hull's Emu.

:D

Sar
27-02-2001, 10:14
I'm wavering atm between ultra goody goody and uber-evil.

Neutral?

Pffft. Neutral's for spineless weaklings!

:D

EARTHWALKER
27-02-2001, 18:39
Oz = Complete t0553r with a very small brain? Just a guess :)

Orbitchicken
11-03-2001, 17:27
Well if its true the visuals change depending on whether your a 'goodie' or a 'baddie' (sorry ;-)) then I think Im sticking with the Good side just for those mellow visuals.

Or am I talking cobblers.....

Sar
11-03-2001, 18:53
Nope the "good" visuals are absolutely beautiful, and worth going down that path for that reason alone :)

cragster
18-03-2001, 11:11
actually its better to play on ur pc bcos i got a DC but the internet costs muny on DC but on PC i got my reliable £15 a month for BT anytime :cheese:

cragster
18-03-2001, 11:13
that woz to ozma btw

cragster
18-03-2001, 11:19
yeh i think the good visuals r really cool also ur actual titan changes aswell like the lion as good is a white type `light` lion :cat: but if you turn evil he starts to transform slowly into a red devil cat wit a pionty tail and evrythin but most of the time you dont turn pure evil u just start to turn black with the frizzy mane and evrythin coz the red lion is like `pure EVIL` :monster:

cragster
18-03-2001, 11:26
woteva i do i want an extreme coz it looks really good when u hav got an extreme

a pure white shining leopard :cheese:
a red pionty taled manky looking leopard in hell:cheese:

either way itll luk cool the tigers and leopards look especially good at both extremes and with a dark leopard with eden as hell well that just looks amazing

my perfect fight wud be a pure dark leopard in hell fighting a GOOD lion with the dark leopard lashing out like mad :naughty:

ashfelt
21-03-2001, 16:23
I hpe we get multiple saves because i want to play it both ways. one ultra good and one ultra bad.

cragster
23-03-2001, 15:10
i wouldnt really think they wud have multiple saves coz then people will have pleny of different games with loads of titans and the piont is to make ur titans SPECIAL ans THE ONE AND ONLY :jigga:

Uranium
23-03-2001, 19:12
You getting 0wned Sar :laugh:

Sar
23-03-2001, 23:53
Nothing new there m8.

In what way this time?

:P

Hardrock
25-03-2001, 14:07
I'm going to be a good god. Any villager killings I want to do will involve picking up the villager and taking him to the ocean where noone is and dropping him in.

EDIT: This thread has too much pages, why dont we delete all the pages with Oozmats racist, eminem-style posts?

[Edited by Hardrock on 25-03-2001 at 02:22 PM]

Hardrock
25-03-2001, 15:08
I hope I don't fuel another arguement Sar, but I must tell you my feelings on the whole Final Fantasy fiasco.

When Final Fantasy 7 first came out, I had never played an RPG before. However, Watching the plot unfold in Tifa's bar kept me up until 2 in the morning. The storylines in 7, 8 and 9 are completly different from each other. 7 stars a mercenary who doesnt really care about the safety of the planet at first but soon comes to his senses. 8 (the weakest of the three) features a moody military graduate who thinks too much and doesnt speak enough. 9 has the completly different sort with a 16 year old theif who always looks on the bright side and a beutiful princess who is pretty strong.

The games are linear sometimes, but it can't be all non-linear otherwise you'd be walking around aimlessly all the time. There are plenty of sub-games and sub-quests. The Gold Saucer and Chocobo Racing in 7, Triple Traid in 8, and mognet central and treasure hunting in 9.

The music is simpley amazing, I have a playlist on Napster with lots of tunes from the games. Beatrix's music from 9 is on right now. You can't say the game lacks depth, they all start with either a simple training or kidnapping exercise (Yes, it's not only DK that you have to do bad things. Though the princess wants to escape from the castle anyway.) And by the final boss, you're saving not just the world, but often existance all together. This all unfolds over 3 or 4 discs.

So it's not just 'good for a console' (seen the FMVs? Better looking than B&W) They are probably the best games of this time. Ozma was an idiot, but he was right, it is these games, not UO (only people who have 6 hours spare a day will enjoy this, I know, I've played it.) not Baldurs Gate, but Final Fantasy, that will be remembered for a long, long time.

[Edited by Hardrock on 25-03-2001 at 03:13 PM]

Fredturds
25-03-2001, 15:20
On topic.....

I will probably be an evil bugger as I just love the way the Evil Sheep and Tortoise look (I shat my panties when I first saw them :pants: )

Hardrock
26-03-2001, 19:45
I hope it was coincidence, or ura wimp.

Either Sar's found my argument unarguemental, or hes slacking. :P

Sar
26-03-2001, 22:06
Hehe

Well Ozma actually made the same argument as you (albeit far less cogently).

Read back ;)

Swerv
27-03-2001, 00:08
Think I'm going to be neutral, the reason - because i think it might be hardest to play and keep to it rather than being a tree hugging goody two shoes or an sick evil demented ammoral sadist, which lets be honest will definately be the easiest to roleplay :)

Hardrock
27-03-2001, 17:30
Originally posted by Sar
Hehe

Well Ozma actually made the same argument as you (albeit far less cogently).

Read back ;)

I have looked back and my argument brings a lot of new points up. I would say "Let our Titans settle this," but yours will probably mega blast mine before it stops gazing lovingly at Princess Dagger. As for the rest of this argument, look at my signature.

Maxmage
02-04-2001, 15:01
Right, since everyone is on this thread, think I'll chuck my 2p's worth in.

1) Consoles vs PCs - it basically comes down to game design far more than platform or graphics, obviously - played many great games on both. Much prefer FPS on PCs, owing to mouse control. System Shock 2 and MUD still my faves though.

2) FF7 - great game, plot had some decent twists by RPG standards, bad guy was cool as hell. <i also managed to kill Emerald Weapon without the Underwater Materia - pulled off the rarest attack in the game - Cait Sith's Game Over Limit Break - on him - anyone else managed this?> Even if the dialogue was worse than 'The Mysterious Cities of Gold' (remember that?) .
FF8 - I'm not even going to talk about how much I hated where that plot went. FF9 - haven't played it yet.

Maxmage

Appo
02-04-2001, 15:57
My monkey was very bad last night so I had to give him a damn good spanking..............that doesn't sound right does it..........:E

[F]Joe_90
02-04-2001, 16:30
/me hands Appo a towel :)

Anyway back on topic, it is going to be v. difficult to actually be extremely good or bad (unless you are like that anyway), as the game has been designed so as it resembles your own personality, as although I'll definetely be throwing the odd villager in the sea, I don't think I could do that all the time.

It's like when some ppl previewed the game they tried to be uber nasty but eventually couldn't and although their Eden was slightly darker than someone playing without any particualr method in mind, it still was pretty neutral.

Anyways none of what I said has any basis on the actual game seeing as it still aint bloody out yet.

P.S If anyone knows of where I could get a list of names of EA staff, and the ability to teach my titan to throw things really hard against brick walls i'd be grateful ;)

Amnion
02-04-2001, 16:56
I think the Titan can be good, but the god\player can be evil.

I expect i'll be fairly evil with a good titan. But i've never played the game before, who knows what'll happen...