NTL cable, pings

[P-Brain]

I'm a bit of a newbie especially when it comes to modems and stuff, but I just got an e-mail today from NTL offering me cable. I want to get it but not just for the faster d/load times but for playing games, at the mo I play kingpin a lot and have a ping of about 180, I would just like to know if I would be guaranteed a better ping with cable, and do NTL install it for you?
Thanx

[Pr1MaL]

ping 25 - 30, more consistent connection and rate goes thru the roof.
Best 150 quid I ever spent

(well 2nd best, that bangkok chickbo......

[TarQuiN[TJC]]

No hes talking about ideal pings lol.

On average people get 100,thats taking into account the bets pings they get not 25 no more like 40-50 and then when ntl is b0rked as usuall you'll get 200 ping /w packet loss.

When people post ultra low pings like above don't tkae them into account.

If you ever play on foreign servers get ISDN cause you use different dial ups + its far more stable,and you get the same ping.

[rider]

Tempting isn't it? NTL and Cable.
I had NTL sockets already installed.

A few facts:
NTL's support and customer service is the worst I've ever experienced. By the time you know what's happening, you're calling Ireland and no one seems to know your problem or who you are, be you customer or otherwise, scum off the street.
Their digital service is far, far worse than Sky's - although I think Sky is a money grabbing, advert sucking, time wasted experience too.
They're a U.S. company making Llamas out of British people.
Unless you're a business calling them, you are the negative "sale" personality of the year
NTL sounds like "NT Hell" - which doesn't make me comfortable each day I have to work with NT Servers.

Well I went for ADSL. BT has had lousy press in the past concerning support, but feck me if they haven't pulled a blinder with ADSL and your humble telephone socket. You ask the questions about ADSL and where it's going - there's still much it can do and the only limiting factor of it is not the copper wire. The socket itself [v1.0] will go alot further with inbuilt buffers and "db" enhancers.

Given time, the standard and the technology applied to ADSL, will improve - and if you have the money, you can already get ADSL that can match cable capability in its best form without the problems - businesses know this

BT have outdone themselves, but they've also badly resourced themselves - ADSL is their anchor and if it fails, BT will start to fall

I don't see this happening however. It's too good to be true, but for once, its held the line [no pun intended]

[EOM Darkman]

im not completely satisfied with NTLs cable service. Browsing in general, especially at peak times is pretty slow, lots of sites time out before you even get the chance to reach them.

Most HTTP dloads are ok, 70k/sec tops, which im not complaining about. Pings/PL are pretty much ok, reasonably consistent, rarely ever dropping below 40 on most servers.

[rider]

NTL cable was very, very tempting, but in my opinion, their support was far worse than anything BT has thrown at me

CM is bound to be the future, but it's a long way off and strictly for the corporate market
ADSL is NOW and it works well with anyone who doesn't want the hassle, especially if they have a BT phone socket

I can get a 70Kb/sec with ADSL, but 60Kb/sec is normal - I haven't seen it go any lower. Like cable, it varies depending how far from the exchange adsl you are - myself, I'm less than 0.5Km away from one in Wokingham - over this toward 3km, and I doubt 50Kb/sec would be achievable

from http://www.3dfiles.com, I downloaded the Serious Sam demo, which is 70Mb in size and it did it in 20 minutes - for someone with a BT phone socket having heard this and not knowing CM, you can bet your sorry ass which one they will immediately go for
I was that sucker
:D

[werewolf_bite]

i don't know about cable being for the corperate market at the moment.

I have one (the price drop has just started to affect me, £20 this month, only £5 more than AOL + 56k), and whilst the browsing can be slow at times the only real problem site i have is the Gameplay forums (sorry, had to be honest), i get more timeouts etc here than on any 5 other sites.

[Chas]

NTL cable was very, very tempting, but in my opinion, their support was far worse than anything BT has thrown at me

I know a few people have found their support to be lacking,but I've always found them helpful, but come on, worse than BT??? surely that's impossible:E



CM is bound to be the future, but it's a long way off and strictly for the corporate market ADSL is NOW and it works well with anyone who doesn't want the hassle, especially if they have a BT phone socket

Errr, what??? So when all the cable franchisees went around digging up most of the residential streets in the UK a few years ago, that was purely for the corporate market was it? I think you'll find that Cable is also very much now and at £20 a tad cheaper than ADSL.

[QUOTE]

Like cable, it varies depending how far from the exchange adsl you are[QUOTE]

The only thing affecting your cable con is the amount of other users connected at the same time in your vicinity, nothing to do with distance as far as I'm aware.

[rider]

"I know a few people have found their support to be lacking,but I've always found them helpful, but come on, worse than BT??? surely that's impossible"

OK, I'll agree on that point
:)
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"Errr, what??? So when all the cable franchisees went around digging up most of the residential streets in the UK a few years ago, that was purely for the corporate market was it? I think you'll find that Cable is also very much now and at £20 a tad cheaper than ADSL"

Cable is a market about as suitable for the U.K. as a steam train is for British Rail from India
Digging up OUR bloody country for their fiscal growth at a price afforable by lame modem56k users? I think you get the picture - if you want a deeper conversation, meet me in 2 years when half the fecking trees are missing
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"The only thing affecting your cable con is the amount of other users connected at the same time in your vicinity, nothing to do with distance as far as I'm aware."

Ok. Agreed on that one. ADSL is affected and the exchanges have a limit. CM has one up, by takes two steps back.
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[Pr1MaL]

Cable performance really depends upon where you are, I wasn't posting ideal pings for CM, I was posting my regular pings and d-l speed.
Ntl seemed to have got it right with cable in cardiff

Heard a lot of bad news about other areas but here it's fine.

[Goose2]

guilford and birm get good connects

[rider]

adsl and wokingham seem to share that ideal too
:)