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Green Rizla1
23-01-2001, 20:48
Just out of interest does anyone know who can provide a T1 connection and how much does it cost? (installation and rental)

Many Thanks

Evil The Cat
23-01-2001, 20:53
Not very sure who can get u one but I'v heard instalation is over £1000.....bit steep

Sh@gMCnasty
23-01-2001, 20:57
A t1 is a leased fibre optic line from BT. Mostly companies, colleges and rich people own them.
About 2mb either way i think.

theV0iCe
23-01-2001, 20:58
i read that it was about £1000 per mo. :(

richardadc
23-01-2001, 22:12
It costs £15,000- £25,000 a year for an E1. T1 does not exist in this country, E1 is the european version, T1 is the American.

T1 runs at 1.544 Mb
E1 runs at 2.044Mb

BT netstart provide a E1 line for £15,000 which is the cheapest, but it is not a 1:1 contention.

Goose2
24-01-2001, 06:28
/me ph34rs the price of JANETS 155mbit pipe

Uranium
24-01-2001, 09:01
Get T3 thats faster :E

Fragpot
24-01-2001, 10:03
My college has a chopped down T1 (256K up and down) which they share with a local high school to share between about a zillion computers. Downloads max out about half a kb a second, if u wanna see a webpage then u gotta leave it loading over break.

deejaycee
24-01-2001, 10:22
Rizla, if I were you, I would get a couple of lines. An E1 for the usual weekday emailing and the odd bit of surfing, maybe driver downloads, then pretend you are a Uni at weekends so you can get a nice fat JANET pipe installed to play the all important CS. This should see you fine.....

Boycee
24-01-2001, 11:39
just to say we have a NTL 2Mbits/s line at college....and i have once seen downloads of 100kbytes/s on it...and i know we have no cache at our end for a fact...coz i watched em remove it..:)

Green Rizla1
24-01-2001, 13:31
Can anyone tell me what a JANET is?

-=>>F@TaL1Ty<<=-
24-01-2001, 13:46
:rolleyes:

Green Rizla1
24-01-2001, 13:59
Wow that was helpful

Jestur.
24-01-2001, 14:03
JANET is the academic netwrok that the universities and colleges are on, Joint academic network or summat. And super janet i believe was an update the improve the back bone some years ago.
Needless to say, provided your uni's connection isn't swamped by napster whores then you have 1 extremely fast and broadband connection available.

at quite times and from uk sites i have gotten > 500K per second, although thats rare. (i don't know what the max theorhetical bandwidth is), but 500k is a good start :)


Hope this helps

Jestur

Boycee : 2mbit line should be able to get much higher than 100k/s (for single user anyhow, just kick everyone else off and that should help) 512kbit line = 64k/second so 2 mbint = approx 250k/s (i think having bad mental math day :)







[Edited by Jestur. on 24-01-2001 at 01:06 PM]

deejaycee
24-01-2001, 14:04
JANET = special backbone network designed specially for uni's and stuff like that so it's well pokey!
believe the 155Mbit value as it's well

[]> []=[] //=\\ =[]=

sorry, still practising :laugh:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = PHAT = rather fast with a HUGE capacity (ISDN is 64Kbit)

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After all that prattling about, I was too slow! ^^
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[Edited by deejaycee on 24-01-2001 at 01:06 PM]

TarQuiN[TJC]
24-01-2001, 14:16
In swindon,the Telewest,NGUK servers have a 5gigabit/second connection!

richardadc
24-01-2001, 16:20
Originally posted by Boycee
just to say we have a NTL 2Mbits/s line at college....and i have once seen downloads of 100kbytes/s on it...and i know we have no cache at our end for a fact...coz i watched em remove it..:)

What's amazing about that? A 2Mb line can do 240KB/s.

Boycee
24-01-2001, 18:43
It was just a comparason to the other guy who said he got 0.5k/s....and...yes indeed i could have worked out the max a 2Mbit/s line can do...but with 300 computers conected i don't get it...and, sites/servers rarely supply that...

Jestur.
24-01-2001, 18:50
True boycee,
i have some trouble finding sites that can deliver even 64k/sec at peak times :)

Just goes to show no matter what ya spend or how quick your computer, one component somewhere will feck it up

Hey slight variation on murphies law there


Jestur

[Tbz]Goofy
26-01-2001, 14:35
Originally posted by Green Rizla1
Just out of interest does anyone know who can provide a T1 connection and how much does it cost? (installation and rental)

Many Thanks

Unlike anyone else answering this, I actually went and looked http://www.bt.com/dataservices/ and it is costly.

A megastream at 2mbs uncontended runs to £4K install and then you start talking rental in several thousands per annum.

Ulp.

'Fink I'll stick with me cable modem.

Mr_Satan
26-01-2001, 17:37
http://www.ja.net for JANET info

Gadget
26-01-2001, 18:07
This cropped up on the CS forum a couple of weeks ago.

http://forums.gameplay.com/showthread.php?threadid=215309

If you want a 2mbit E1 (connected to the net, not just a point to point megastream), it works out rather pricey.

BT will knock you back £2467.50 for installation, plus £28853.30 per annum rental....including VAT

They'd also do you a 500mbit net feed (ouch!) for the bargain price of £176250 installation plus £2937501.18 rental per annum. £3million quid a year, oof.

http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/current/docs/BTnet_Services/110815.htm

Uranium
26-01-2001, 19:49
Hmm, thats cheap :P

Brocken
26-01-2001, 23:20
I think i'll get several :D

T0uG|-|t3|)
27-01-2001, 02:04
ill take a dozen. :E

Calzor Suzay
27-01-2001, 02:50
I'll have an OC-256 :E
Look it up...

Sabbeh
27-01-2001, 09:09
Just wondering - How do the speeds/prices compare to those in the states?
Ta

M@trix
28-01-2001, 01:02
OC-256 = just over 13Gbps :)

the fastest net connection on the planet methinks?

well, i havent seen anything faster anyway :)

Confused?!?
28-01-2001, 13:18
i'll take 2 OC-256's!!!!

that should reduce the pings on CS by a little!!

Jazza
28-01-2001, 16:02
Not sure were I got this, but thought it might help here.


T1: 1.544mbps
T2: 6.312 Mbps
T3: 44.736mbps
T-3D: 135 Mbps

E1: 2.048mpbs
E2: 8.448mbps (4xE1)
E3: 34.368mps (16xE1)
E4: 139.264mbps (4xE3)
E5: 565.148mpbs (4xE4)

OC-1: 51.84 Mbps
OC-3: 155.52 Mbps
OC-12: 622.08 Mbps
OC-24: 1.244 Gbps
OC-48: 2.488 Gbps
OC-192: 10 Gbps
OC-256: 13.271 Gbps (heh )

All OC stuff is optical fiber as is the T-3D

E1, E2, E3, T1, T2 can all be coax, twisted pair or fiber.

Green Rizla1
28-01-2001, 20:34
i think i'll stick to my ISDN then :)

{GA}D!MEY
29-01-2001, 01:03
I know a guy on Kingpin with a 1 gigabit connexion, he works for the University of London (uses their connexion for gaming) and pings at a wonderful 15...
/me is rather jealous...
My poor ol' modem can just about handle 100 on a good quiet night.

:)

nickwatson-chip
29-01-2001, 21:24
OK then without the GEEK crap, its bloody fast, you can't afford it and freeserve offer it. Booyakasha.

Get a 2megabit connection, from BT. If you really are serious, if not get ISDN or ADSL (or cable).




T6 is out 2 the US goverment,
T11 is been developed.

Brocken
30-01-2001, 01:54
I want OC-256 pwease :)

Think of the stuff you could download :E

I could get an endless supply of pr0n :P

Wouldn't it be limited by the speed at which your hard drive can be written to?

Phett
31-01-2001, 12:59
I used to work for Teleglobe and we used to supply T-3D and they work out at about £178,000 per month, I dint know of any telecom companies who lease a oc-256, if they want them they get them layed thereself, I know thats what Chasemanhatten did between London and Bournemouth.

E1 was about £800-£1200ish

We used to have a T3 between 10 of us (demo line in our office)

It never got congested ;), Napster was great on it lol

*FD*
01-02-2001, 11:40
I just thought i would let u know i was downloading at 4.2mb at college the other day what is this line they have?