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Anyone got much experience with Mandrake? I got Red Hat under VMWare but I'm gonna put on Mandrake properly if all goes according to plan...
:)
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Gwil Da Skank Of TA
12-04-2001, 20:00
Aye, I use mandrake as my Linux distro and have been doing for a while now :)
Im sure godin ( :P ) or myself will help ya along with the install and configuration and so forth :)
We're always sitting in #wpphp ready to answer questions and ask our own questions as well :)
Also, the mandrake webby ( http://linux-mandrake.com ) has a nice guide which simulates installing it!
Sweet! :)
heh, yeah, I use mandrake 7.2 as well (although its pretty heavily customised now like) and its ded easy to install with these new fangled graphical installers
/me goes back to installing the packages by hand
muahahahahahahah
but seriously, ded easy, nowt to worry about as long as you plan :)
Ghost Trayn
12-04-2001, 20:55
They're right peachy. It's soo easy to install you don't even need to plan! Just set aside some disk space, boot of the CD and let disk-drake and hard-drake do the rest.
Mandrake7.2 was the first Linux install I ever did and am still shocked at how easy it was :)
All this stuff about Linux being for hard-core-beard types is just a myth!
But with this Kernel4.2 stuff... Can it be used with mandrake7.2? Will I have to compile the mndk7.2+krnl4.2 source code before the install??
/obviously I'm still a 'lvl-1 newbie'... so that above paragraph might be total bird-droppings...
Yes the new kernel should work fine, just plan(this seems to be a key thing with linux) and take backups. You just need to compile the new kernel and put it in place, then sort lilo(if you use lilo).
Oh and don't rush the install of the kernel, look through all the options and their descriptions. Perhaps dig up some guides from the net.
Andy
wierdly enough I was planning on writing a guide to installat a 2.4.x kernel on mandrake 7.2, might get that one done then, meh method must work, gwil survived it ;) tbh tho the worst of it is the first bit of the compile process, the rest is just waiting, all said and done its well simple to do.
That would be luvly :)
I'll get me beard washed in preparation :wink:
hmm... /me feels the need for a new beardy smilie
Yeah I use Mandrake, good first distro, better than that Red Hat crap.. FFS it doesnt even come with a standard C compiler.. Ah well :)
Wheres the best place to get it? I dont have a CDRW for ISO otherwise Id DL it.
Ive seen you can get it from http://www.crazypenguin.co.uk for a few quid. But being ever the tight arse was wondering if you have any tips ;)
erm, the price of an sae to me for mandrake 7.2? a mut only special ;)
Ghost Trayn
13-04-2001, 07:09
ooo :x
eeeeek! You'd better run dude, I think he means it! :cheese:
That tutorial your planning for Kernel4.2+man7.2 sounds good... I'll look forward to it!
+ A brief description to what a 'kernel' is would be nice ;)
cheers
that last bit I can write in here :)
The kernel is basically the core of the operating system, its the bit of software that lets applications talk to the system and vice versa, it also contains things like network support (including IP), basically the os wouldnt work without it, windows has a kernel as well, but MS hide it away and dont let ya at it ;)
Ghost Trayn
13-04-2001, 19:03
Oh, so the kernel is basically a 'device driver' for software? Just as you have device drivers for NIC, GFX cards.. etc. The kernel is the Daddy of all drivers...!
yes?
could put it like that ;) - essentially all other software programs talk to the kernel, and the kernel talks to your PC's actual hardware.
In the beginning there were monolithic kernels. They contained all of the device drivers and all of the code to talk to the hardware, and processes running on the machine.
IIRC, the Solaris kernel is still a big monolithic thing with everything built-in.
Then we have kernels which support loadable modules. They still contain all the code to talk to the hardware & stuff, but some of that code can be inserted or removed at will. Recent Linux kernels are the obvious examples.
Then there are micro-kernel OSs in which the kernel just does message passing between other bits of code running on the machine. Device drivers et al are separate entities. QNX does this.
HTH
AEF
Funnily enough i installed Mandrake 7.2 as a guest O/S using VMWARE (Win NT host) last week.
It worked fine except i seem to remember :-
1. I forgot to install the VMWARE tools so spent quite a while farting around trying to the X to initialise.
2. I remember X complaining that a file wasn't where it should be, so i had to move one to get X to work.
3. The automated install will incorrectly detect your ethernet card (if you have one). There's a specific FAQ on the Vmware webby about this (easy to rectify).
Since running it, the only problem i've had is with the thing that searches your hardware (can't remember it's name now). It seems to hang the virtual Linux PC. But, as it's under VMWARE that's not all that surprising really (and you don't need to look for hardware anyway as it installs anything it find dring the install).
Other than that, it was the best Linux install i've seen.
And i love my VMWARE :kiss:
Cheers
Slime
Off-topic, but...
What's the registration stuff like for VMWare? I was thinking of getting a copy that would be installed on three machines, but only ever running on one at any one time (hence should be ok on a single license). Are there any funky mechanisms to stop me doing this (mandatory registration, etc)?
TIA,
AEF
Unfortunately i'm running the 30 day evaluatin copy....and still waiting for Dabs to pull their fingers out their collective ****** and send me a paid-up registered version.
However, the eval copy runs a registry entry, so i wouldn't be surprised if the registered version does as well.
It's a grey area IMHO about licenses with this thing. Should you need another license for a virtual machine ?
I'll re-port if i ever get my registerd copy.
Cheers
Slime
P.S Try the eval version though, this is damn useful software :)
Unfortunately i'm running the 30 day evaluatin copy....and still waiting for Dabs to pull their fingers out their collective ****** and send me a paid-up registered version.
However, the eval copy runs a registry entry, so i wouldn't be surprised if the registered version does as well.
Well, being that I'd be using it under Linux, I can keep fairly tight control of what it does :)
It's a grey area IMHO about licenses with this thing. Should you need another license for a virtual machine ?
Dunno. There's a lot of grey in software licensing about what does and does not constitute a machine. If you get (say) Veritas management software for your Sun E10K, you'll end up paying based on how many machines it's set up to be at any given time.
In any case, it's normally considered ok if you're only running one instance at any one time.
I'll re-port if i ever get my registerd copy.
Thanks, that would be appreciated.
P.S Try the eval version though, this is damn useful software :)
Have use VMWare before. Plex86 is now booting Win95 under Linux, but it's still very much in development and not for the faint-hearted, so I think VMWare is the only really comprehensive solution around at the moment.
AEF
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