Bikes Vs Cars (the ***** that wrote to evo)

[Piglet]

I was merrily reading evo the other day when I cam to the letters page, and read a letter about the Car Vs Bike article they ran. This was running a Caterham R500 Vs an R1 (the car won). The bloke who wrote in was complaing because they should have chosen a car with an even higher power to weight ratio, and how they should have balanced it in the car's favour because evo was a car magasine.

What a dick.

Does this guy not realise that the R500 costs about 4 times as much as the bike, so they should have got a VP1 (or whatever those race bikes are called) not an R1, and how the R1 was a race bike so that wasn't fair either. To which i would say "Oh and I suppose the R500 is perfect family transport isn't it? You dick."

Bikes are much, much better fun/performance for the pound then a car is, and the noise, expierience of being on a "enthusiastically" ridden bike is simply fantastic, and you can buy an amazingly fast sports bike for 5-8 grand, about the same price as the lowest spec Renault Clio.

Yes, cars are nice, roofs are nice, and CD players are nice, but wtf does someone complain that the bike hasn't got these when they go and compare it to a ****ing Caterham?

Tits.

Piggeh. (not wanting any hostility :P )

[TheSpaceCowboy]

This was running a Caterham R500 Vs an R1 (the car won).

The guy was complaining when the car won ? Does sound like a bit of a tit.


The bloke who wrote in was complaing because they should have chosen a car with an even higher power to weight ratio,

:laugh: Higher than 508 bhp/tonne ? Well there is one (Tvr cerbera speed twelve 762bhp/tonne :eek: ) but you can only pre order it at the mo (i think).


and how they should have balanced it in the car's favour because evo was a car magasine.

They shouldn’t have made the comparison at all :hmph:! Cars and bikes are very different things. Both have good points and both have bad. You have a favourite ? Fine enjoy it, don’t bloody start arguing about which is better !

[Piglet]

Cars and bikes are very different things. Both have good points and both have bad. You have a favourite ? Fine enjoy it, don’t bloody start arguing about which is better.

Nicely put.

Piggeh.

[Desmo]

I'm a biker first then into my cars second. And I couldn't agree more about this Car v Bike thing.
It get's on my tits cos it's always performance related.
The thing about bikes is the way they FEEL when you ride them and not so much the performance aspect which is always the thing that gets mentioned.

You get it in the bike mags too. Some bikers have a go at others cos they only ride when the weathers nice and don't use their bikes all year round. I mean, wtf is that all about?
If I dont want to go out in the rain then I wont, ffs.

So, Car v Bike. Bike v Car. Remember children, it's all MOTORSPORT :E

[Captain Kirk]

U knew I'd post on this didnt ya :E

Much agreement with the bikers in 'ere. Riding bikes is far more then just outright performance. I ride my Honda Fireblade to work every morning thru spring/summer/autumn and it makes the journey to work a much more pleasant prospect. I only work 8 miles away so it dont take long, but when the mornigs are fine like this it makes you glad to start work so early and just blip your way thru town, without so much as a care in the world :E
Best car ive driven is a Honda S2000 demo car, and as nice as it was (very) it just doesnt compare to the feelings generated by riding any modern sportsbike even moderatly fast. Just makes you feel fluffing glad to be alive. Hard to explain unless youve enjoyed the experience from the pilots position :)
Bikers who whine about fair weather bikers are just nuggets IMO, why anyone would want to reduce a beautifully crafted bike such as an R1/R6/996/Blade etc etc to a festering pile of oxidised scrap by riding thru a salt infested winter is anyone's guess :[

What also annoys me about a certain section of bikers (MCN as an example) is there utter paranoia that the world is against us. I think a good portion of ppl who ride sports bikes treat the open roads as race tracks most days, total disregard for speed limits is the norm :E
Just we cant complain when we get nailed for it, and also cheating traffic cues is a grey area legally. There's been a lot of posturing in the bike press about it recently. Personally I filter thru traffic at anything upto 20/25 mph, but you gota accept the risks hand in hand with the benefits. Cant complain if someone jumps lanes if your overtaking down the middle of traffic and you didnt anticipate their actions well enuff.

What's ur opinions on this matter ?

Kirk out
Kirk out


[Edited by Captain Kirk on 29-06-2001 at 11:41 PM]

[Piglet]

Personnaly I have no problem with bikers treating A roads like race tracks as long as they are riding well and being sensible. One thing I would like to say on the matter is this: so many times now I have seen bikers going round a left hander and hitting the apex then flowing to the centre line. Nothing wrong with that but in the car we have had a few close scrapes with muppets in cars who try and cut the corners when they can't see what's coming, and I would hate to see a biker's head meet with a car at an approach speed in excess of 100mph, it would be very nasty.

Fair weather bikers, well, I have no problem with these people, as you said, who would want to turn it into a pile of rust. What I do have a problem with is people who don't ride regularly then hammer it down local roads, without much knowledge of the current state of them etc, plus, these people (particularly "born again" bikers) are the one's who cause the most accidents. But no, I have no problem with fair weather riders, just the same one's as most other bikers I suppose.

About the traffic thing: most of the problems are caused by stupid bikers and/or stupid car drivers. I think if everyone just drove/rode better there wouldn't be a problem, and I think the problem people have with bikers overtaking in traffic is that they are jelous :D.

And kirk: Yes :D

Piggeh...

[glenspen]

A Biker friend of mine (ooh err) told me about 8 years ago that the people having accidents on bikes are those who have a cool car, but decide on a bike aswell, purely for high speed thrills, so they pass an intensive motorcycle course on a 125, then buy a Fireblade/Ducati 916 after riding on bikes for only 2 weeks....I know the law regarding how long it is until you can ride a large capacity motorbike has changed over the last half dozen years...does anybody know what the law says about that ????

[Desmo]

You can still do a Direct Access intensive course over anything from 2-5 Days. You have to be 21 or over and takeyour test on any bike with at least 36 bhp. Then you can ride what you like :)

If you dont choose Direct Access then you take your test on a smaller bike and are then restricted to 33 bhp for 2 years.