Gankware

[wayelander]

do u lot realise youre playing a piece of software released by....GANKWARE !!!!!

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME, its laggy crashes every 2 minutes ( quality windows desktop emulator ), has anyone tried to return this game for a refund because its the worst piece of coding ever !!!

my copy is going back, i cannot believe theyve released a game in such a poor state

avoid this shambolicness at ALL COSTS !!!

you have been warned !

please visit.... http://www.GANKWARE.com :E

[phatb0y]

TEHRES A COMPANY AT STEAK!!1

[wayelander]

Then the company should not have released such crap - this has potential ruined FunCom because nobody can play it properly - visit http://www.ao-basher.com/index.php and read the comments from Graeme Devine who offered to re-write the net code for them.

If you want to be shafted then play it - I mean why should I pay for a game each month when its knackered?

As for the company - sod it - this game should still be in beta (I beta tested it and they said the other server (which we are now playing on) was superb - that was BS.

If you want to support the company send em a frigging check in each month for sod all - because thats what ya gonna get.

BAH!

[Nor]

I played for 5 hours straight last night, no crashes, although i did reset my pc half way through cos of the memory leak.

During the day, there is no lag, no crashes, everything works. At night, things get abit slow, and on sunday there it was murder. In saying that outside the city it was okay, we even managed to set out guild up :) Which aint easy :)

Thing is, if you posted this last week i wouldn't dispute what you're saying, but now its actually pretty decent. Not perfect but certainly not a crash every 2 minutes.

[phatb0y]

Good. Send your copy back. Less lag for me.

Funcom shouldn't of released the game in it's current state, but from the rushed release I get the impression that they didn't have a great deal to say in the matter. They either did it to save face with the public, had contractual obligations with CD/print repro companies, or simply the suits said "Release this game now!".

From my experience during the beta I can safely say that the problems will be resolved, and fairly quickly too. No game ever has a flawless release. Name me one major recent title that has been released without the need for a patch or fix of any description. This is the PC market, deal with it.

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this has potential ruined FunCom because nobody can play it properly

No. You can't play it properly. Either have a little patience or p**s off.

Graeme Devine who offered to re-write the net code for them.

Graeme Devine is full of crap. Who the f**k is he to whine about re-writing netcode when Quake3 is still one of the most exploitable games on the market today.

(I beta tested it and they said the other server (which we are now playing on) was superb

Where did they say anything about the "other server"? I was in the beta since phase 2, and they never mentioned anything of the sort. Evidence please?

FYAD.

[7084]

Well said m8!

[Nerdy]

Bugger off back to the official board.
Bloody trolls.

[[BA]Mo]

Fact is it was rushed out obscenely early. It isn't in a fit state to be a full price release + subscriptions. If you want me to name a game which has never needed patches I prob could think of one(I don't recall patching B&W, although it sucked byatches). Name me a game which requires patching twice a week? ;) I also don't have any games which crash out when I enter buildings...or lag me out wasting all my ammo whilst I shoot nothing. :D

All in all it's been rushed. But it's still playable, much more so during the day than after US comes online. Plus they patch it loads..so they are doing stuff to improve it. Also a new server coming online I do believe..and helping you with server pinging tools or something I remember reading.

If you can't stand it in the state it's in just now...piss off and come back in a month or 3. There's a VERY good game in there which i'm looking forward to playing all the way through until there are no bugs..and then some.

[wayelander]

Well if you did beta test it then you should read the official site now and again ya llamah.

They always maintained they had TWO servers up - one for official beta testing and another which was the official retail server. If you want more information of this goto there forums and search.. well... about 2 months back. If you followed AO you would know this.

If you don't know who Graeme Devine is then you are a bit dead in the gameplay department - Q3 is exploited yes I agree with that - at least I can PLAY that - as he said there netcode is frigged.

Basically this means when you lag instead of predicting where you are and what you are doing - it sends you all the missed data - this makes you more lagged on a slower connection - do you not understand this ?

It's not the game's idea - it's the way it's implemented - I can't see it getting better as they would have to re-write the code majorly - and that's not gonna happen.

Now when you have a structured argument re-type - because saying that you were in beta and actually were in beta is different things - and FYI I can patch my Beta up to the current version so thats how much they've done with the retail - add a movie a crap box and even crapper manual and there you go.

I agree it was rushed - i think basically it was get this game out before something else comes along - in the future you have Dark Age of Camelot, Planetside, et al. now as soon as they come out - who's gonna want to play a buggy, none-functioning game.

One last thing, statoury rights, a product should be supplied in a reasonable working condition. I rest my case for a refund.

[wayelander]

One last thing - who the hell are funcom?

They have no pedigree - at least Microsoft are a reputable company who aint gonna disappear overnight - Asheron's Call has problems yes - but god it aint this bad.

There previous released 'masterpieces' include stuff such as Online Poker and Mahjongg - obviously thats why the servers run so well.

Anyway imho it should still be in beta.

Oh and they've said the game is perfect now and your free month starts.

I've spoken to several peeps and they've already cancelled there accounts - and has anyone read there tips for getting the game running properly? Basically they are accusing everyone who gets lag its client side - OK obviously the client I've played it on (1.2 Ghz Athlon 512 MB Ram, GF2 2) is obviously crap so it must be me.

Oh hum.

[Nor]

Hmm I have to say during off peak times, the game runs very well. It seems to me the whole problem is servers being overloaded, which is apparantly being sorted soon with a second server.

But as has been said, if you have cancelled your account, and you don't play it anymore, fair enough, thats your choice. The rest of us are prepared to put up with the teething troubles so let us get on with it please.

[phatb0y]

Short on Ritalin today?

Well if you did beta test it then you should read the official site now and again ya llamah.

They always maintained they had TWO servers up - one for official beta testing and another which was the official retail server. If you want more information of this goto there forums and search.. well... about 2 months back. If you followed AO you would know this.

Nice comprehension skills there, retard boy. There were two servers, but they were never up at the same time. They were also located in different geographical locations. The first server was located in Oslo, with the development team, and was used from the first beta up to about halfway through beta three. After that they shifted the beta over to a server farm in the states, where they could dedicate more bandwidth and where the game would eventually go live. The live server (or more accurately, servers) is no different than that which was used in beta 3 and 4.

Learn how to read.

If you don't know who Graeme Devine is then you are a bit dead in the gameplay department - Q3 is exploited yes I agree with that - at least I can PLAY that - as he said there netcode is frigged.

Learn how to read II.

"Graeme Devine is full of crap. Who the f**k is he to whine about re-writing netcode when Quake3 is still one of the most exploitable games on the market today."

"Who the f**k is he to whine..."

"Who the f**k is he to whine..."

"Who the f**k is he to whine..."

It's called a phrase. Not a statement. I know who Graeme Devine is. Learn the language please.

I've spoken to several peeps and they've already cancelled there accounts - and has anyone read there tips for getting the game running properly? Basically they are accusing everyone who gets lag its client side - OK obviously the client I've played it on (1.2 Ghz Athlon 512 MB Ram, GF2 2) is obviously crap so it must be me.

Oooh! I HAEV SPOKAN TO SEVARAL POEPEL!!1 Whoopee-f**king-do for you. I HAEV ALSO SPOKAN TO SEVARAL POEPEL!!1 And they say their client is running fine. Okay, so the framerate leaves a lot to be desired, but it's running fine. If you read (or even understood) the comments Funcom have been making concerning the lag and client stability, then you'd know that most people are having trouble telling the difference between lag and framerate (heres a hint, MENSA boy, they're two different things).

I rest my case for a refund.

Get one. P**s off. Less lag for me. Some of us are having fun, and don't bitch like a little girl at the first problem they come across. Go start a lawsuit or something.

We know it's bugged. We know it's rushed. We know it shouldn't of been released. We also know that what lies underneath all the bugs and disconnects is a game thats worth playing.

Now make like a tree...and f**k off.

[wayelander]

"Graeme Devine is full of crap. Who the f**k is he to whine about re-writing netcode when Quake3 is still one of the most exploitable games on the market today."

Did you by chance read the post's at AO basher? - He said he liked the game but the netcode was fu**ed - I think he should know - he gave you the reason's why it was fu**ed and that he would really like it fixed so he can play the game properly. He also pointed exploits in the logging in process - which could potentially run ANY 3'rd party application because the program doesn't check this.

And you say Quake 3 is exploitable.

"Oooh! I HAEV SPOKAN TO SEVARAL POEPEL!!1 Whoopee-f**king-do for you. I HAEV ALSO SPOKAN TO SEVARAL POEPEL!!1"

I can only guess as to WTF you mean here - I mean FFS at least get a spell checker on ya next post.

Well anyway to answer the stability question.

Stability has NOT been delt with - time-out's have been increased making it seem more stable - if you read other forums rather than stickin ya head up ya a$$ you might learn this.

"and don't bitch like a little girl at the first problem they come across"

FIRST PROBLEM??? it's a big fu**en problem. If it was one problem then fine - it's not - mission's being bugged so that you can't play them, enemies firing through walls, being trapped in a shop for 4 days and then being unable to move from the restore point is un-acceptable.

Please go give them all your money and enjoy yourself - for while you are putting up with complete crap at least I shall be playing something decent.

And WTF did you mean by:

"TEHRES A COMPANY AT STEAK!!1"

Of course there company is at stake - there reputation is ruined already - they fu**ed it up for themselves when they released a bugged to f**k game and said it was playable (they have started the free month now if you didn't read it - saying the game is 100%).

In my opinion its a quick way to get money - promising it will get better each month - then when they have ya money - cya..

[CrazyCrane]

I love it when people criticise someone's spelling when their own post is riddled with simple errors too. Particularly when what they're taking the p*ss out of is a joke.

WELL DOEN MISTAR SMARTEY MANN!!!1 BUTT YORE JUST HARE FOR TEH FLAMES!!!!

As phatb0y says, if you don't like it then don't play it - get a refund and play something else. Too hard for you? Need a copy of "Jack and Jill explain polysyllabic words" to help you out?

[Nor]

Its not perfect, we aint arguing that it is. What we are saying is unlike you we are prepared to put up. You've made you're decision to get a refund and leave AO. No-one here is going to argue with your decision, all we ask is if you don't play it, don't post.

[wayelander]

Yes, sure Crazy whatever..

Yep the game's so hard for me that I can't even get the guy to move most of the time - with a ping ranging from 0 to 113,000 all of the day be it day, night or Christmas.

What I'm saying is if you want to pay for a bugged game then that's fine it's your decision - I'm posting to possible people who want opinions on the game made by people who have played it.

And up to yet it's been in these forums AO its god-like I have a 10002048240 ping but it's so good I get into the city and have 2 fps on my GF3 but thats ok - it's the host machine it's w*nk3d - I had high expectations but hey they're just another rip off company who want your money - but that's OK because people are stupid.

Oh well I suppose I'd best play a game that actually works - I suppose you don't know what that is Crazy - aptly named I might add.

[[B-R]BOBAFETT]

well erm, sorry to interrupt this flame war guys, im from the kingpin forums, i also have to agree with wayelander on this one, the games great but ya cant play it...

ffs funcom re release a new version of the game and call it one of 2 other new names....

1) ANARCHY OFFLINE

or better still....

2) DESKTOP EMULATOR V1.1 BETA :E

thanks for your time

[[B-R]BOBAFETT]

well erm, sorry to interrupt this flame war guys, im from the kingpin forums, i also have to agree with wayelander on this one, the games great but ya cant play it...

ffs funcom re release a new version of the game and call it one of 2 other new names....

1) ANARCHY OFFLINE

or better still....

2) DESKTOP EMULATOR V1.1 BETA :E

thanks for your time

[Nor]

I ain't on commision but i've played today (bit sad this) for about 10 hours. In that time i crashed once, i did lag a few times (for 30 secs at a time - bout 10 times it happened). I had a couple of problems with attack ranges on hand to hand combat not working, but re-logging sorted it.

The item on item missions didnt work today (being sorted tomorrow in patch apparantly). Also my lag in omni 1 was horrendous, couldnt move. I reset my PC and it was perfect (definately a memory leak, which they say will be fixed soon).

All in all i completed about 8 missions, levelled my martial artist from level 23 to 25 and also sorted my doctor out, didnt level him, just died there 80 points short of level 10 :) hence the reason i'm here and not in AO :).

If you can't move at all in a city at any time of the day, then check your video settings, are you on full view distance ? Also read the funcom forums regarding video card compatability and the drivers to use for optimum performance. I dont have as good a computer as you (tbird 850 128ram geforce2mx and cable modem) but i dont have the same problems as you. In saying that i think 128 ram is abit low, i am adding another 256 tomorrow so will tell you how it helps. Whats your ram btw ?

[Communist_Camel]

My view is, if you hate game, take it back. If you love it, keep it. If you like it but cant handle the bugs, start your account in two or three months. :)

[wayelander]

I agree with the last remark.

I just wanted to say my opinions at the time I was p*s*ed off because I'd just wasted £30.

Anyway it's just my opinion - I read the article on what was causing lag and they didn't want to accept any responsibility - some points were: stay away from cities (erm what if I want to go in the cities?) turn down detail (what if I've just gotten a Ge-Force 3, etc) - they didn't accept that there servers were the problem - and sometimes they were.

Anyway thats my opinions.

[Edited by wayelander on 13-07-2001 at 08:21 PM]

[wayelander]

As to the memory question - oh frig it heres my system:

1.2 GB Athlon
512 MB PC133 Memory
7200 ATA 100 - 40GB Quantum Fireball Hard-drive
Elite K7VZA Motherboard
Hercules Phrophet 4500 Kyro II - 64 MB Video Card

[[B-R]BOBAFETT]

yeh heeh ive just wasted 30 quid of my hard earned cash on a poxy bug ridden poor excuse for a game, bring on....

http://www.DARKAGEOFCAMELOT.com :E

any sensible folk out there ( i.e you lot )

would perhaps do the same...... :)

[Nor]

Ahhh thats the game thats gonna be the 1st MMORPG to be perfect on day 1 :cheese:

[Spam]

EQ - was bugged to buggery on release, 2 years later mobs still attack you through walls, you still crash while zoning and you still lag to hell and back when lots of people are in the same area.

AC - was bugged and exploitable to buggery. It was and still is the most exploitable online game.

UO - was and still is prone to crashing (especialy with the new 3d client)

See a patternt here? all games on release suck chunks, and all games after a period of years suck chunks. You either live with it or take the game back to the shop and get on with your life. Why people insist on whinging on bulletin boards about a game they continue to play beggars belief. Take the game back to the shop and get a refund. Quit playing it, youll sleep better at night, i promise :)

Oh and of course DAoC and Shadowbane will be flawleslly perfect right from the box too :) And Dawn will be released as well :)


There is a comapny at steak!!!11 (look in the dictionary under Derek Smart (i think))


[Edited by Spam on 16-07-2001 at 11:59 AM]

[[B-R]BOBAFETT]

Originally posted by Spam


See a patternt here? all games on release suck chunks, and all games after a period of years suck chunks. You either live with it or take the game back to the shop and get on with your life. Why people insist on whinging on bulletin boards about a game they continue to play beggars belief.


ahem HELLO !! i dont play this shambolic game cuz it sucks too much to be able to do anything in the first place, makes a nicer IRC client tho :E

[Nor]

I know all its faults etc, i get annoyed as much as anyone else, but ... If you can't play it AT ALL then the problem is you're end.

[Convict***Escaped***]

And to sum up:
AO sux0rz, UO sux0rz, EQ sux0rz, AC sux0rz. Spoken like a true leet!

Chill out guys, the game has it's problems and if wayelander feels like getting a refund, he IS entitled to one. As no one can deny, the game is unacceptably buggy.

Below all those bugs there is a truly beautifull game to experiance and if you guys are into the 'Its whats on the inside that counts' school of thought, then you have my commendation. Good Man!

Personally, I can't devote my time to such a bug-ridden game, I'll quietly wait until its more playable then its current state.

If people like myself want to wait a while, there's no need to tell us to piss off. I understand you like the game, but please be considerate.

[Izzeh]

If anyone wishes to stop playing this game but cant get a refund for some reason I will be happy to take it off their hands :E

[Izzeh]

I fink there is a conspiracy ;(
This game was running fairly nicely in beta, it crashed every few hours sometimes and mosta tha missions didnt work so it wasnt counted as releasable but god dammit it worked and was fun! :(

Not the missions work and they have added outdooor ones which sound far better but they fooked up the game! In the final beta patch the day before they released the game everything stopped working, they introduced a few nice touches in exchange for hundreds of huge bugs! In 2 weeks of the beta I only got stuck in the scenery twice and both times I was able to eventually jump back out of it, one time was my own fault as I climbed over the train station in the neutral backyards which you obviously arent meant to do and the other time I just ran down the mountain in the middle of neutral training in a really weird way that nobody else will ever do probably and managed to get under the tunnel but I ran straight back out, apart from that it was fine, now I'm hearing that tons of people randomly fall through the floor and have to commit suicide to get out? ;(

pft ;(

[Nor]

Convict i agree, if you are waiting till its sorted then of course its good to be around the forum and chat about the game etc. What i object to is people coming on here and calling us idiots for playing it.

[Spam]

i dont play this shambolic game cuz it sucks too much to be able to do anything in the first place

Well words fail me. Your actually moaning about a game you dont even play. You need to examine the emptiness of your life i think.

[Celchu]

Games working fine for me now, can get missions,complete them,enter all shops without any probs. The only problem I had today was bt cuttin out mid battle luckly my team saved me and I leveled while I was trying to reconnect.
The only bit of advise I can give is try and stay away from major cities they are badly designed (what pillock puts missions booths right near entry and exit points) which causes most of the problems.

[StringBean]

Wise words Celchu, stay away from the big cities if you can.
I usually travel around in Athens city, and freeze up majorly due too memory leakage..
I was on the verge of chucking it all in, then last night I was around in the feilds in Newland and by god was it fun, no lag at all and great team fighting.
Top stuff :)

[[B-R]BOBAFETT]

lol top stuff not bad eh, but its still GANKWARE :)

ive quit ao already it sux, gonna try a subscription to funcoms last game that rocked online...no lag or nothin!

the game?....

online poker!!

LMFAO

[Nor]

/me waves

[FBM!]

yay our first flame :P

Been out a week and look what happens :rolleyes:

Anyway, if you honestly thought that the release of a MMORPG will be perfect on the day of release then quite frankly, your quite simply niave. Do not compare FPS games, RTS or even Online Bloody Poker to it, because the sheer magnitude of a MMORPG means that there will be hundreds more possibilites for the game to go wrong. It's not a case of player moves there and shoots xxx. The more there is in a game, the more there is to go wrong. Although I agree with you it was a rushed released, FunCom are not responsible for the release date, they made the game as well as they could during a very tight time frame.

The arguement for wasting £30 is invalid. You still would have payed the money whether the game is bugged to high heaven or playable (e.g. in the near future). You are not paying a subscription until 9th of August (me 18th Berfday as well the nice chaps :P) so do not use that arguement either.

In short if you don't like it don't play it.

/me waves at Nor

[Sir_fRaGaLoT]

wayelander = noob