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Neddeh
20-01-2002, 01:06
Utter pile of t0ss

1) Ugliest web design in the world my eyes are starting to hurt.

2) Forums slow as sh1t about the same as they were just before wp died last time, but theres like feck all ppl on here at the moment.

3) 290 ping on the servers WTF is that all about

4) been banned for having a wav file player though voice comms. That just takes the spangle, seems well over the top.

5) Some tw@t has nicked my forum name of Ned which I have used for 4 years.

[-NIM-]Orangelily
20-01-2002, 01:29
Originally posted by Neddeh
[b]5) Some tw@t has nicked my forum name of Ned which I have used for 4 years.

But they've maintained the previous archive of names, so if it was registered to you before Gameplay closed, it should still be registered to you now.

Ned
20-01-2002, 01:33
Originally posted by [-NIM-]Orangelily


But they've maintained the previous archive of names, so if it was registered to you before Gameplay closed, it should still be registered to you now.



Wicked quality stuff I retract that staement, cheers oranglily.

However when did I give arenatek permission to keep my personal details on file?

[-NIM-]Orangelily
20-01-2002, 01:36
When you signed up probably, even if it was to Gameplay. The fact that they bought out the assets of Gameplay might well include intellectual and intangible assets as well, so they could probably have kept it.

I'd have thought if you asked them they'd delete all your records though (I don't know how feasible it is for them to delete all your posts mind).

Razz
20-01-2002, 02:33
1) I'm very sorry that you don't like the site design but everyone that i've spoken to so far really likes it. Once again, sorry.

2) The forums certainly are not as slow as they once were - the forums database doesn't seem to even go over 10% load. Sometimes they will slow down but this is due to us working on the forums at that specific time. Bear in mind this is a beta launch and we're still tweaking a number of things. We try and do these tweaks/edits at times when hardly any users are on but sometimes they need to be done straight away.

3) I don't know why you're pinging so high but most people have had pretty good pings. If you post a traceroute to the specific server you've having trouble with we'll be able to see wether or not the problem is our servers or your ISP's peering with our network. (to do a traceroute open a dos box and type "tracert 62.105.80.x") Let me know what ISP you're using too.

4) That would be my fault. We have anti cheating software on all the Half Life servers and it appears i've made an error in the config which accidentally bans people using certain configs. Looking into that first thing on monday morning.

5) If you try and use your old password for your "Ned" account then it should work. All username, passwords and posts have been carried over to these new forums so if you were the owner of that account then you'll be able to use it still.

Any further problems and feel free to email me chris.easton@arenatek.com

Spookie
20-01-2002, 02:53
Razz can we send you abuse and lots of swearing :E

bink
20-01-2002, 02:57
I can't believe you're asking if it's ok :)

Spookie
20-01-2002, 02:57
Originally posted by Neddeh
Utter pile of t0ss
2) Forums slow as sh1t about the same as they were just before wp died last time, but theres like feck all ppl on here at the moment.


BY run like **** ( <sh1t ) for me :mad:

Minty
20-01-2002, 02:59
The servers are doing what they did before WP died last time....

One moment the pings are alright (bloody good this time around actually) and the next im pinging 300. Doesnt really make the game smooth does it?

Spookie
20-01-2002, 03:07
CS = rollercoster

....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Razz
20-01-2002, 03:12
Yeah, I think that's down to the anti cheating software.. Will try and see what I can do about that on monday :)

Steffan
20-01-2002, 03:18
jolt are in the process of taking off all the anti cheat software across the board on there servers, as they belive it causes ping issues.

also lol @ ned

toys of pram anyone ?

P1nky
20-01-2002, 20:07
1. Everyone I know except you likes the web design..
2. Loads of people use forums day and night so stop moaning..
3. Invest in a decent connection or isp
4. :/.
5. Stop Your Moaning... It's a name.

Ned
20-01-2002, 20:44
I do have to say the forums are working fine and are nice and speedy now.

And someone pointed out the saved info from wp.

Servers still seem to have alot and I mean alot of pings spikes (i don't think its the anti cheat stuff cause I have 3 servers running it and their fine)

Tracert Results:



Tracing route to 62.105.80.5 over a maximum of 30 hops



1 126 ms 106 ms 105 ms orangutan.lns.birmingham.access.planet.net.uk [195.92.168.27]

2 102 ms 103 ms 103 ms 195.92.168.2

3 128 ms 219 ms 121 ms BNR-2.BRM.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.162]

4 110 ms 109 ms 111 ms BNR-1.TCL.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.194]

5 113 ms 110 ms 118 ms BNR-2.TCL.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.195]

6 112 ms 109 ms 108 ms Pumpkin.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.147]

7 110 ms 111 ms 107 ms C-LON-cor-R1ge100.uklon.ecs-ip.net [212.38.194.197]

8 119 ms 125 ms 117 ms E-BRU-bel-R1p400.bebru.ecs.ip.net [212.38.193.166]

9 118 ms 118 ms 119 ms E-AMS-spa-R1p200.nlams.ecs-ip.net [212.38.192.210]

10 119 ms 118 ms 118 ms E-AMS-ix-R1p300.nlams.ecs-ip.net [212.38.192.173]

11 119 ms 123 ms 117 ms amsix-bi1.bbnplanet.net [193.148.15.94]

12 120 ms 121 ms 119 ms p7-0.amstnl3-cr4.bbnplanet.net [212.133.10.114]

13 119 ms 121 ms 125 ms p5-0.londen3-cr3.bbnplanet.net [195.16.175.201]

14 118 ms 118 ms 117 ms p7-0.londen3-cr4.bbnplanet.net [195.16.160.170]

15 118 ms 119 ms 119 ms p5-0.london2-cr3.bbnplanet.net [212.133.14.33]

16 120 ms 121 ms 118 ms p1-0.london2-cr4.bbnplanet.net [195.16.175.174]

17 258 ms 243 ms 263 ms p5-0-0.london2-cr2.bbnplanet.net [195.16.175.182]

18 134 ms 128 ms 127 ms h0.firstnet.bbnplanet.net [195.16.162.242]

19 125 ms 147 ms 131 ms 109.firstnet.co.uk [212.103.233.109]

20 159 ms 155 ms 129 ms 109.firstnet.co.uk [212.103.233.109]

21 143 ms 154 ms 134 ms 62.105.80.5



Trace complete.


For comparision heres one for jolt:



Tracing route to 195.149.21.126 over a maximum of 30 hops



1 112 ms 120 ms 239 ms orangutan.lns.birmingham.access.planet.net.uk [195.92.168.27]

2 105 ms 108 ms 104 ms 195.92.168.2

3 123 ms 139 ms 112 ms BNR-2.BRM.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.162]

4 114 ms 111 ms 110 ms BNR-1.TCL.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.194]

5 112 ms 112 ms 114 ms BNR-2.TCL.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.195]

6 115 ms 116 ms 110 ms Pumpkin.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.3]

7 109 ms 111 ms 112 ms pomegranate.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.13]

8 110 ms 110 ms 110 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]

9 117 ms 112 ms 111 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]

10 115 ms 118 ms 112 ms 195.149.21.126


Trace complete.


and one for BW:



Tracing route to monty.barrysworld.com [213.221.174.40]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 117 ms 106 ms 110 ms orangutan.lns.birmingham.access.planet.net.uk [195.92.168.27]

2 105 ms 102 ms 104 ms 195.92.168.2

3 112 ms 114 ms 110 ms BNR-2.BRM.AS5388.NET [195.92.201.162]

4 113 ms 111 ms 108 ms BNR-1.TCL.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.194]

5 110 ms 112 ms 108 ms artichoke.AS5388.NET [195.92.200.196]

6 110 ms 109 ms 108 ms linx.globix.net [195.66.224.82]

7 115 ms 126 ms 108 ms ge-5-0-0.core1.lhr2.globix.net [209.10.12.205]

8 110 ms 109 ms 110 ms ge0-0.hgw1.lhr2.globix.net [212.111.61.130]

9 112 ms 112 ms 113 ms 213.232.65.232

10 111 ms 121 ms 113 ms 213.166.3.230

11 118 ms 112 ms 117 ms 213.221.179.115

12 114 ms 118 ms 115 ms monty.barrysworld.com [213.221.174.40]



Trace complete.


Alot more hops to WP which slows it down alot.

Are the servers in your own datacentre or are they co-located cause they look like there colocated at firstnet and well I have never heard of them and I know all the main ppl due to searching for co-lo for work.

I suggest you try netscaliber for co-lo cause they are superbly fast.

Razz
20-01-2002, 21:53
Glad the forums are now fine for you. As for the anti cheating software, there's a lot of tweaks that I want to add tomorrow that *should* fix the problem with ping spikes and stop people getting banned for playing wav files - everyone who's been banned for this will be unbanned.

Our netfeed is supplied by Firstnet and if you look at your traceroute you'll notice that at soon as you hit firstnet's network it's four hops to the server. The rest of the hops is poor routing between your ISP and Firstnet. The more traceroutes we get the more evidence we can give to ISP's and Firstnet to improve their routing. If you want to try Wireplay Direct that should give you about three to five hops to any of our game servers.

Ned
20-01-2002, 22:13
yeah I use Freeserve like ALOT of ppl so you might wanna speak to them asap.


I won;t use wp direct cause you have to pay for it and thats just not an option in these times considering all the ppl who use anytime services.

Freeserve is fine for me on other gisp's and get a decent ping and no or little choke\loss. Its fine wth a decent ping and no loss\choke for my servers in Sweden as well.

the forums are dog slow again at the moment again.

And is it a netfeed you have or co-lo and if its a netfeed (like i presume it is) what speed is it?

Razz
20-01-2002, 22:24
We'll be contacting a number of isps and bandwidth providers over the coming weeks but quite often they're reluctant to do anything. If a lot of their customers complain then they're likely to take more action.

The netfeed is "a multiple 100Mb supplied over a fully resilient SDH multiple 155Mbit backbone with diverse routing. The entire infrastructure is built with Cisco hardware. " (quoted from the website 'cause i'm not technical enough with these things ;) )

xxxxxx
21-01-2002, 00:30
freeserves capped my connection to 45,333 the Bästärds :angry: i managed to get 49,xxx on the wp direct :D funny thing about here is i got higher ping but les choke/loss than usual so it`ll take more time/adjusting hl setting before i make a decision.

T-Bag
21-01-2002, 00:57
They only seem to lag when more than 14 people connect to the servers.

How about limiting them to 14 players. It makes for a MUCH better game of cs with 12-14 players anyway.

Ned
21-01-2002, 01:10
Originally posted by T-Bag
They only seem to lag when more than 14 people connect to the servers.

How about limiting them to 14 players. It makes for a MUCH better game of cs with 12-14 players anyway.


aye 12 players are better imo

saying that though I haven;t been able to test the WP servers since the other night as it banned me, but I was playing for around 1hr and the pings were bad but server was full so I suppose I am going to have to look at them again, but I suspect they will be the same.

Ping666
21-01-2002, 01:11
First impressions...err Ned sucks? :P

Anyway m8 I would have though that you were the LAST person to be dissin the colour of anyone elses webby. /me points at the old 3G site

:laugh:

Ned
21-01-2002, 11:53
lol cheeky biatch.

/me kicks ping666

shamrat
21-01-2002, 12:23
I tried the servers last night for the first time. NTL cable modem, ping was 70-100, BY its usually 30-50, and there was only 10 in the server, and I was getting loss and choke. Still, its early days so I will try again in a few days. I seem to remember from way back that NTL and Wireplay did not 'get on' so to speak, dunno.

DOONY12
21-01-2002, 13:27
i'm on BT ADSL and had the same kind of troubles, played on dust with 80 - 130 ping and loads of choke and loss, then when map changed to train, it was down to 45-60 which was nice, about the same as i get on our jolt clan server.

i like the forums and the webby, nice and blue, my fav colour :E