View Full Version : Anyone suffering poor pings from NTL?
Flomotion
19-01-2003, 16:37
Quite a few of us are unable to play at peak times, with pings soaring past 2000, and suffering 30% packetloss, even using low rates.
If anyone else on NTL is suffering these symptoms, PLEASE go over to the NTHell World (http://www.nthellworld.com/forum/) forums, and post in the 'Broadband Discussion' forum.
The only way it will be fixed is if people kick up a fuss.
Thanks :)
erm - getting NTL installed in 5 days - plz say it isnt so :(
you all live in the same area, or...?
Flomotion
19-01-2003, 16:39
No, I'm in Northanpton, Oggys in Derby I think, people in Notts are having problems...
omfg
i live in notts - f*cking typical :P
Ive been posting on they forums since July. Sometimes they're helpful and sometimes they aren't
Mines meant to get fixed tomorrow night, but weather it does or not is a different story.
RinseAid
19-01-2003, 17:40
i must admit my pings have been pretty crap to most servers, with a fair bit of Ploss, the burstfire servers seem the worst hit, but apparently there are some 'clara-ntl routing issues' or some such carp which i understand nowt about.
Flomotion
19-01-2003, 17:44
Go and register and post then RA :x
Toothpick
19-01-2003, 18:14
Goks mines ok :) was pretty bad other day buts it seems to be sorted now
\o/
it better be, or else i will hax0r the router and not give meh house mates any BW :P
Hate to say this but unless your very lucky your gonna be having the same problems as us.
I lived in Notts last year and had cable and my ping was 80 most of the time. Ping Chow Chi has the same problem and is in notts. I'm in Derby going through the Notts main frame thingy and having problems again.
NTL are just ****e
well i would rather give my money to NTL than BT.... :|
1 158 ms 191 ms 475 ms 10.117.96.1
2 125 ms 89 ms 104 ms nott-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-112.inet.ntl.com [80.4.46
.37]
3 70 ms 28 ms 103 ms not-t2core-a-ge-wan64.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.61]
4 83 ms 40 ms 79 ms lee-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.33]
5 82 ms 50 ms 89 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
6 405 ms 29 ms 26 ms linx-ic-1-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.82]
7 74 ms 81 ms 21 ms fe-3-0-redbus-boomer.router.clara.net [195.66.22
4.62]
8 49 ms 73 ms 31 ms fe-1-0-redbus-niobium.router.burstfire.net.uk [2
17.158.78.6]
9 45 ms 55 ms 45 ms platinum.burstfire.net [195.22.128.20]
Trace complete.
Even after seeing the above?
aye - BT are c*nts.
i will take meh chances with NTL ;)
Smallfoot
19-01-2003, 19:42
pings vary, sometimes its bad sometimes it not :| It didnt use to be like this a coupla months ago.
Tracing route to platinum.burstfire.net [195.22.128.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms 31 ms 16 ms 10.144.47.254
2 30 ms 15 ms 47 ms nott-t2cam1-a-v101.inet.ntl.com [80.4.46.49]
3 47 ms 15 ms 16 ms not-t2core-a-ge-wan64.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.61]
4 32 ms 15 ms 16 ms lee-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.33]
5 63 ms 78 ms 15 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
6 31 ms 47 ms 16 ms linx-ic-1-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.82]
7 78 ms 31 ms 16 ms fe-3-0-redbus-boomer.router.clara.net [195.66.224.62]
8 16 ms 62 ms 16 ms fe-1-0-redbus-niobium.router.burstfire.net.uk [217.158.78.6]
9 16 ms 31 ms 16 ms platinum.burstfire.net [195.22.128.20]
Trace complete.
From Nottingham. Do get some really tupennce-ha'penny days though, and have had an annoying little lag problem in TFC, where it's 90% playable, but I get the odd jerky lag which is really irritating. Also if myself and my housemate try and connect to the same CS server our pings just keep going up and up until we packet out and drop. Random disconnects also own me :p
Much better than it was last term though, at least it's playable at times of day other than 4am now.
RinseAid
19-01-2003, 19:47
Humm, i must admit, the BF servers seem to have picked up:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.28.87.254
3 11 ms 11 ms 9 ms ltn-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-102.inet.ntl.com [80.4.118
.37]
4 12 ms 15 ms 38 ms ltn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [213.107.47.6
5]
5 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms pop-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.185]
6 15 ms 16 ms 24 ms linx-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
7 27 ms 15 ms 34 ms fe-3-0-redbus-boomer.router.clara.net [195.66.22
4.62]
8 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms fe-1-0-redbus-niobium.router.burstfire.net.uk [2
17.158.78.6]
9 17 ms 18 ms 52 ms platinum.burstfire.net [195.22.128.20]
Trace complete.
RinseAid
19-01-2003, 19:48
thats only on 128k cable mind...
*** [#nthellworld] topic- 'NEW FROM ntl!! Free Trip To Holland For Every Packet From 80.3.73.x To 194.117.138.215!! Get It Now Before Someone Fixes The Routing Tables!!'
*** [#nthellworld] topic- set by Ignition (Sat 18th Jan 2003 08:58p)
U can also moan in there, and I think my ip matches that one ;/
RinseAid
19-01-2003, 20:16
whey! i did a lil tracert to www.google.co.uk and its routed through 21hops to amsterdam :D
Whats the best way to test bandwidth? Not overly sure what im getting at the mo :P
RinseAid
19-01-2003, 20:25
http://www.vantage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/v2/v2.htm
download that lil proggy (1.7megs) and it will do a series of pings and downloads and stuff. Quite nifty.
telewest is the win....
70kb/s (560kb/s) estimated connection. and all the pings to servers were sexeh (except 290 to japan :P).
/me will test NTL in 5 days time :O
good program though.
Blimey, seems Im on 512k rather than the 128k I thought I was paying for :eek:
Speed Test Report
Broadband Speed Test - for ntl:World - 512k service
ntl:World Server:
21ms - Normal - it's about right!
UK Server 2 (www.bbc.co.uk):
23ms - Normal - it's about right!
UK Server 3 (www.ic24.net):
24ms - Normal - it's about right!
USA East Coast Server (www.yahoo.com):
115ms - Normal - to be expected
USA West Coast Server (www.lycos.com):
108ms - Fast - very fast response
European Server (www.marcopoly.com):
25ms - Excellent - better than expected
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Section 2: Custom Server Ping Results
These results are to four user-definable servers.
Blueyonder Counter-Strike 1:
29ms -
Blueyonder Team-Fortress Leage 1:
28ms -
ntl:World - 512k service Server Download:
73KB/s (584Kb/s) - Superb - much higher than expected
Download through Transparent Cache:
70KB/s (560Kb/s) - Superb - much higher than expected
50 packets were sent, 50 bounced back; 0% loss (estimated)
Fantastic - no packets dropped!
Average time taken to retrieve a page: 83ms - Fine, nothing to worry abo
im on 512k and am only beating ur stuff by a small amount - except server ping times - 10 less.
seems ur getting a good deal for 128 :P
Flomotion
19-01-2003, 21:34
NTL have upgraded certain regions to 600k for a month or a fortnight I believe - promotional stunt.
still - by the sounds of this thread - bloomin good for NTL? :P
might that be the problem? maybe they have over loaded their network with the upgrade of so many people?
No.
There is no such thing as 512k if you're with NTL
Its 128k, 600k or 1MB.
They changed 512k to 600k to compete with ADSL, who advertise theres as 500.
I think I know more about NTL than some of their employers :D
[edit] Nevermind, I know what you mean know, there is a region in the northwest (I think) of England that have been upgraded to 600k for a few weeks [:)]
Am I right in saying that the peeps who suffer most with NTL are those with standalone cable modems ?
Mine's through the Digital TV set top box, and is sweet as a nut.
1mb connection, no loss, no choke, 125 d/l speed, worth every penny of £24.99 pm :D
btw, I am in an old Cable & Wireless / Nynex area, South Manchester.
how you getting 1mb cable for 25 a month? :o
first month of 600k = £14.99 - so he might be in the first month deal?! or maybe a pr0m0 or something :)
I'm on ntl cable and I don't have a single prob :o. Set top box, same as amatol though.
1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.59.16.1
2 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms btn-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-104.inet.ntl.com [80.3.66.
17]
3 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms btn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [80.3.65.5]
4 10 ms 30 ms 10 ms gfd-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.233]
5 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms linx-ic-1-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.78]
6 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms fe-3-0-redbus-boomer.router.clara.net [195.66.22
4.62]
7 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms fe-1-0-redbus-niobium.router.burstfire.net.uk [2
17.158.78.6]
8 50 ms 10 ms 10 ms platinum.burstfire.net [195.22.128.20]
oh, I'm on 600k and I'm on the south coast :E.
Big-Chief
20-01-2003, 10:20
our engy has been having some serious problems with his ntl cable recently.
Just keeps morphing around alot of our matches recently with his ping spiking all the time.
By morph i mean he runs a bit in tfc then gets put back the way for no reason (runs down short corridor then has to re run down it after he gets "morphed" back :rolleyes: )
as oggy said he stays in nottingham
Predator
20-01-2003, 11:09
My ntl has been utter toss for about 3 months at the end of last year, it has got an awful lot better in December and is 100% fine atm, getting good pings to all servers and no ploss at all :D
I'm on ntl 128k cable btw in Luton/Bedfordshire area :cool:
Oh and Ace, your cable fixed? not in my lifetime! :P
Work will take place between midnight and 6am on Tuesday 21st of January on the Andover, Clydebank, Ely, Hartlepool, Johnstone and Middlesborough UBRs.
Mine meant to be fixed tonight actually :p
Doubt it will actually get fixed though :rolleyes:
That's what I get Big-Chief. You wouldn't believe how annoying it is! As engi I probably could cope but playing offy it's frustrating as hell. Wasted many a conc or gren because of it.
Must be a Nottingham thing :o
Pretty sure it is skins as I go through notts and get that problem.
addiction
21-01-2003, 13:28
Section 1: General Ping Results
A Ping test is the time taken for a server to reply to a request
Main Server:
20ms - Normal - it's about right!
UK Server 1 (www.demon.net):
20ms - Normal - it's about right!
UK Server 2 (www.bbc.co.uk):
19ms - Excellent - better than expected
UK Server 3 (www.ic24.net):
22ms - Normal - it's about right!
USA East Coast Server (www.yahoo.com):
119ms - Normal - to be expected
USA West Coast Server (www.lycos.com):
96ms - Fast - very fast response
European Server (www.marcopoly.com):
22ms - Excellent - better than expected
Actually on BTConnect Business ADSL, comparible to your cable pings =) Apart from download speeds :o being 58KB/s but thats respectable.
Flomotion
21-01-2003, 16:05
And how much does that cost?
addiction
22-01-2003, 23:12
nothing
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