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Come on guys, I logged in today to one of the KOTS2k Servers just to find out the map rotation has been totally messed up and only a few lame maps (with all due respect) have been left to be played on.
I know some of the older maps were having problems, but removing probably 90% of the real good, working maps is totally unneeded! Please bring back our old rotation back!
pigwhistler
20-05-2003, 17:44
prolly down to my patching last night and not moving the old maps over to the new config.
vamps drop me a nod of what you want on there or just to move the old maps folders back and i'll get it done.
pigwhistler
Animated
20-05-2003, 17:45
He´s damn right guys, the mainpart of the remaining maps are nearly useless/funless for both pvm and pvp. I ve met noone since yesterday who agreed to the new rotations only crying over crying for the old maps. There were such nice spawn-chaos maps like trmdm, homers, fury, rage etc. especialy for higher lvl chars. Its boring to sit around on maps like rene24 waiting for 1 or 2 monsters to spawn per minute when ur lvl 10 or higher ...
Please get us some maps back! plz plz plz
version 2.3 is only half as good with those %#$§&! maps!
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
[FOE]TIMMI
20-05-2003, 18:25
the maps have changed as to what was posted on k2k forum by greg and i think the maps are fine no need to change em change is as good as a rest an all that.
maps will stay as thay are for now at lest ya dont have a force map dm1 an lose ya weapons and ammo.
fury
rcdm1
unrdm1
trdm06
homers11
homers12
vd6dm2
Can you put these maps back in the rotation or add them to the rotation? Cause I agree with the guys that this new rotation isn't really cool. Adding these maps would make it more fun to play.
gregster
20-05-2003, 19:36
im happy to reveiw the map rotation but i would like to see how many of you disagree with the rotation at present
lets get a rotation everyone wants but i would like to keep the new maps in the rotation
gregster
I agree with the maps Teh just mentioned, the current rotation can still have its current maps, but adding to that the maps Teh listed will be perfect
[FOE]TIMMI
20-05-2003, 20:01
playing the same maps all the time gets boaring thats why theres new maps keeps things alive for everyone and ppl dont get fed up with the game as a whole then.
may be in a month or 2 maps can be added but you need more suport for it than just you 2.
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
20-05-2003, 21:06
i think its funny that this happens all the time....
http://www.nachos.net/vbull/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35880
we asked .
you didn't reply
it get's changed then bam you lot suddenly wake up...
strange egh ?
Animated
20-05-2003, 23:15
Originally posted by [COMIX]VaMpIrE
i think its funny that this happens all the time....
http://www.nachos.net/vbull/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35880
we asked .
you didn't reply
it get's changed then bam you lot suddenly wake up...
strange egh ?
Hmm strange but when I look on this thread i see more than 4 disagrees to the rotation and it seems like noone said "yes lets do it!" :7 many peepz did reply and asked to add maps like urdm1 and stuff, so wtf ?
Some of us did post though and it might have been better to post that sort of thing on both forums ( thread or a redirect to one or other ) and Greg never came back with a follow up post either to it. At least here you can put it on a sticky where it may get seen more easierly.
If K2K hasnt got the option already it needs to have 2 different map choices. A mapcycle that is choosable by the server runner and an independent vote map list, so players can choose from a more extensive list. That way you can have new and fresh mapcycles ( or run it as basic as you want ) and still leave old favourites etc, that the majority can vote for if they wish to play them.
Timmi, there was more than 2 supporters for certain maps both for things new and old, look at Gregs post on the K2K forum, were any of the suggestions taken into account? There must be certain reasons why certain maps play on most of the other servers, regardless of the age of them.
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
20-05-2003, 23:56
no whats strange is when this subject comes up time after time
3-4 ppl actully bother to post and submit
then its left to us just to get on with it.
it changes ppl realise .
then theres the big "pufft this is lame"
happens every time tbh and i still find it funny
greg has worked of the new server configs for the last 3 weeks and when we got the chance to update we went with it.
anyone say thanks for stable servers etc ?nope...
your stuck with it till the new one is done and there's chance at updateing
Just answer a couple of questions:
1. Can you have maps listed in the votelist that players can vote for that are NOT forced to run as part of the mapcycle ( therefore they never will play at all unless voted for )?
2. Is there any limit to the number of maps that can be in the mapcycle and/or votelist?
3. Do you have a list of the maps that failed to load into K2K?
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
21-05-2003, 01:04
as far as i know
1: no its crap its lame its not even a proper vote system
ive said time and time again its pants
2:no
3: i think greg has a list and you were looking at some too rember :)
gregster
21-05-2003, 01:47
ok here goes
in the pole of who likes the map rotation 36.84% didnt like it and
63.16% liked it you had ya chances votes were cast
so it will stay till i change it
as vamps said every time i do a map rotation i get little if no feed back and tbh i cant mess around waiting for players to post
when it comes to the time that the server is updated i have to have this stuff ready
ive spent 3 weeks staying up till 3am sorting this (no time during day been helping perants move)
with help from timmi whos been a star helper :P
the will be no real map voting system on k2k wireplay servers due to the amount of player abuse that goes on in server
the map rotation is the size i decide
its pointless having a list of maps that fail as i have no real idea what the criteria for maps failing is and as the previous rotation
was down to the odd k2k if theres enough players then load this map if its been on 2 maps ago dont
it makes it impossible to work out what map fails unless i get feed back from players which at best is 2% of the k2k comunity
and why oh why do you never post when i request input but post when theres something to moan about ?
and looking at your post on k2k forums you even mentioned some of the maps that i have added to the rotation and even in that post its 90% moaning 10% input
plz if you want to see maps in the rotation then post a reply
when i post a list as for why didnt i post in here well because
90% of the k2k players wont read these forums
it all boils down to this im doing my best with little feed back from players untill i have the rotation uploaded then they all moan this is the third rotation change and again the same thing has happened
1/3-Baked
21-05-2003, 01:57
you will never satisfy everyone...
[FOE]TIMMI
21-05-2003, 02:43
i agree with baked for once you wont keep everyone happy so we just do our best and what we think is best at the time with the input (what little there is)
No disrespect to you lot (Timmi, Greg, Vamps) but ..................
YOU DON'T PLAY THE MAPS.
WE DO.
Listen to us lads, the players.
We know. :-)
[BuZz]
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Considerably richer than yow.
slideymoo
21-05-2003, 04:45
What is the full rotation now?
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
21-05-2003, 09:16
of all the comments made about kots saying that we dont play is by far the one that annoys me the most.
FYI all of us have players most of us have played scince the start of kots
rember kots was on w/p years ago and we pl;ayed then.
if we post about rotations then ffs reply when we ask dont come on after the fact and moan
[FOE]TIMMI
21-05-2003, 10:25
bit ov a silly comment there buzz dont ya think?
gregster
21-05-2003, 12:01
FYI buzz i play every map b4 it goes into rotation
and play it for a good few hours with other kots admins
if we its a balanced map then i add it to the rotation
all the maps ive added are balanced maps fair to nearly all chars
and i have played kots when i was on wireplay b4 to
Ok, ok.
I stand corrected.
(again). :gren:
:cheese:
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
21-05-2003, 18:18
/me fluffles buzz
just a bad time to have posted that buzz :)
gregster
21-05-2003, 19:04
we love u realy buzz :rolling: :eek: :banana: :wub:
q2dm1
hammer
q2dm2
grom_dm3
q2dm3
mdm2
q2dm4
jail3
q2dm5
jail1
q2dm6
rene24
q2dm7
ztn2dm3
q2dm8
eye tiggor I think it might be still that :rolleyes:
Cheers, I can get maps rather than waiting for d/l from server..
Yea kind of naff downloading from a server, as the bsps arent compressed and download speed is slow. What they need is something like UT where it can download from an alternate source, especially if its handled and uncompressed later. The problem of course is there are enough malice ways to use Q2 now without offering extra ways as well :)
mdm2 would be the 1st I get then, as that gets voted on a fair amount :E With the double quad, secret stash room, etc its pretty good in both ffa and monsters, even if lacks tanks and just poas.
10 of the others are part and parcel of Q2 anyway and the others are common league/standard server maps.
yeah d/l one othe rnight from KOTS
/me waits and waits
cheers mate.. :)
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
31-05-2003, 00:29
i now have ftp acess so any maps will be avalible from there soon
Hmm ftp request forum or something perhaps would be good? I suppose it depends if your just going to cover what servers are running or be a more indepth thing?
BloodyKenny
31-05-2003, 20:15
Originally posted by Foxy
Just answer a couple of questions:
1. Can you have maps listed in the votelist that players can vote for that are NOT forced to run as part of the mapcycle ( therefore they never will play at all unless voted for )?
Yes, any map in the maplist with priority 0 can be voted on but will never show up on its own. I have all the single player maps on my server for instance, since as a matter of principal I think all servers should have all the DM/SP maps in their maplist. And if there's any that the host doesn't like, make em priority 0... like I did with hangar2 heh.
Originally posted by slideymoo
What is the full rotation now?
Type 'vote' in the server and the full maplist will be displayed.
Interesting so server hosts can have new and fresh mapcycles but still leave old favourites for peeps to vote on. No excuses for having the best of both worlds then?
Would Greg like to comment on this, so at the next map update, we can hopefully have homers11, unrdm1, etc, back even if you want a totally new mapcycle to play?
Originally posted by BloodyKenny
Yes, any map in the maplist with priority 0 can be voted on but will never show up on its own. I have all the single player maps on my server for instance, since as a matter of principal I think all servers should have all the DM/SP maps in their maplist. And if there's any that the host doesn't like, make em priority 0... like I did with hangar2 heh.
Type 'vote' in the server and the full maplist will be displayed.
gregster
01-06-2003, 02:15
there are maps we dont want run on the server
so they wont be on mainly because we have to upload any maps that we want on the server and tbh with isdn connection it would take to long
the map rotation will be changed in the near future see other thread
Originally posted by gregster
there are maps we dont want run on the server
so they wont be on mainly because we have to upload any maps that we want on the server and tbh with isdn connection it would take to long
the map rotation will be changed in the near future see other thread
Err????????? ( in Tim Allen style )
I will go and read the other thread in a min. Lets look at this:
1. Scrubs what I said as thats more of a personnel opinion and its better to start fresh with the new map thread.
2. Some of the maps requested were already on the server and it "seemed" only because you changed the maplist that we couldnt play them anymore. I suppose one could go and look whats on the server already? Actually since that leads into the part 3 maybe if you listed whats already installed ( not just the ones running at mo ), that perhaps would give a small selection that might be considered by peeps to begin with and at the end of the day "may" save some uploading by using whats already exists on the server there?
3. Uploading of maps. Really saying its because of slow upload speed, your jiving us surely? Your connection might be isdn, but the server boxs aint is it? Theres enough ways around this "problem" it isn't a problem.
4. There are maps we dont want run on the server. Fine name them, ( as you seem to have differante ones your thinking of by your comments ), so we know whats off limits. Then we can concenrate on making our votes towards maps count in the other thread.
gregster
01-06-2003, 19:34
the maps on the server are the ones in the map rotation piggy deleted them all :P
no way round the slow upload for me as all i have is vnc connection and its my job to upload them
as for the rest of the thread cba to answer cause im nackered broke my car and in bad mood will come back later
Soz about the car, doesnt sound too hot :( , our van has a problem at moment, but hopefully will be fixed on Monday.
You answered the main important ones, but it raises silly things like:
Why did PW delete maps? Theres no logicial reason except to save hd space? Was this a big blunder then or is this going to be an ongoing problem then, which will continue to affect future map choices?
Uploading of maps. So theres no internet browser on the server box, no ftp client, suppose you use irc to upload files? If there is a browser theres no problem. You could either link direct to pre-existing links or ask someone with a quicker connection to upload one big zip of the finalised map choices to some webspace, where you use the browser to get it? Theres 101 better ways....
What this means for keeping the WPftp upto date as well I dont know?
Really if you lot cant come up with a better solution to get stuff on the servers, other than using some poor sods isdn, then your crazier than I ever be :E :eek:
Originally posted by gregster
the maps on the server are the ones in the map rotation piggy deleted them all :P
no way round the slow upload for me as all i have is vnc connection and its my job to upload them
as for the rest of the thread cba to answer cause im nackered broke my car and in bad mood will come back later
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
02-06-2003, 00:54
no the kots servers got moved thats all the maps were taken over as a dir and copyied over the origanal a mistake that most ppl could make i think you might agree
there is plenty of space on the server for maps
theres a browser and there is a ftp client i just got it enabled yet
the w/p ftp is up and working and i have full acess
there are allready maps up there i just need to move some of them arround
if you want a good place for d/ls atm try here http://www.clanwos.org/maplist.htm
Originally posted by Foxy
Really if you lot cant come up with a better solution to get stuff on the servers, other than using some poor sods isdn, then your crazier than I ever be :E :eek:
you know exactly what we have to work with
No I dont. At best I'm summising/guessing and Gregs comment about isdn raised a query in that dept and while I was pretty sure on the returned answer it didnt hurt to ask.
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
02-06-2003, 14:27
you have acess to the server same as greg so you know whats there ?
or did i miss something ?
Yes we both did miss something then. As far as I knew the kots were on the other older box and the old ip currently ( so do I know how that box is set up no I dont ). Till you said the kots server got moved but that might have meant as little as combining all the various installations together. The trick part of the question was when Greg said what he said which confounded me and thats when I asked the query?
Originally posted by [COMIX]VaMpIrE
you have acess to the server same as greg so you know whats there ?
or did i miss something ?
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