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sabotini
28-05-2003, 04:15
its set to GMT, should be BST (ie -1 hour).
errrrm...
the clocks have gone back? already?
christ...
:rolling:
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
28-05-2003, 08:48
Originally posted by [COMIX]VaMpIrE
the clock has to be wrong its tradition
:laugh:
totally forgot about that! :D
/me is confussled.
but... but... its not GMT, it says it is, but its an hour out...
/me knows he is making a fool of himself... but is still confussled.
Its set like that so certain peeps like Vamp can go home early :E
We aren't GMT atm, we're BST, which is 1 hour ahead of GMT (or GMT -1)
With that theory, doesn't it make the clock 2 hrs fast to GMT ;) ? ie, if i'm posting this at 17:58 uk time (BST)
Just realised I posted the exact same as the thread starter, really should read things more carefully in future :)
When we change to British Summer Time in Spring our clocks go forward. So 6pm previously would now become 7pm. So to get from GMT to BST you +1. So I think that shows Dash is right. My head hurts when I try to work it out though :)
oh... I thought GMT was the one that changed oddly twice a year or whatever it is.... to make the UK have weird time changes.
Shows what I know. Makes sense actually, now i tihnk about it, cos it'd offset the rest of the worlds time zone differences if was GMT that changed, and not actually the UK that changed to BST or watever.
Anyway, I'm making no sense.
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
28-05-2003, 22:14
but the clock has to be wrong its tradition !!!!!
GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) is the standard time on which the world is based. Greenwich is a town just to the west of London IIRC. It is 0°W and °E. This line of Longitude is known as the Greenwich Meridian.
Time is then split into hours around the globe from this point. Going East an hour is deducted for every 15°, and plus one for each 15° West. At 180° is the International Date Line, which is where it gets confusing. As The time on the eastern side will be say 1am on the 10th of whatever, and on the western side the time will be 1am on the 11th.
Now why do we switch from GMT to BST (British Summer Time) in the Spring and switch back to GMT in the Autumn? The Americans call it "Day light saving time", and this is a good explanation. As you all know the days seem shorter in the Winter than the Summer because the Earth 'tilts' at 23.5°.
So to make the most of the sunshine we shift the clocks forward one hour so the day doesn't drag on (or start too late).
Why are the forums wrong? The server which the forums run on is set to the current UK time, which is BST at the moment. The forums apparently haven't been told this (pigwhistler) so they believe the server is on GMT and it should be an hour ahead. So the effect we get is GMT plus 1 hour on the server, and another hour on the forums to get 2 hours here.
Why hasn't this been fixed yet (pigwhistler)? Because it's more fun watching people get in a numpty about it.
Why does time revolve around a small town just outside of London?
It used to be in Spain, or something. But because the British are l33t we beat them up and took it over. The Americans haven't yet plucked up the courage to do this... but they have tried to rename GMT to "UTC". So where you see UTC you know what it means.
IMHO everything online should be done in GMT. Swatch came up with this 'Internet Time' which uses 'beats' 0-999 or something. But tbh, why not just use GMT?
It is also fun when you plan a clan match with some europeans at say 7PM GMT. They will all turn up on time, but all the britts will turn up at 7PM local time, which during the summer is BST.
Yes, we are indeed an educated nation.
Neophyte
28-05-2003, 23:58
/me hands Dash a beard trimmer :)
Leave it at GMT if you want. BST makes more sense though since its a UK based GSP with mainly UK resident patrons.
All times are MT. The time now is 5:31 PM.
MT = My time
[COMIX]VaMpIrE
30-05-2003, 16:55
shouldn't that be PMT minxxy :P
The clock should be working now
however it might feckup a few posts as comm_bog was nice enough to point out to me :E
communal toilet
30-05-2003, 17:18
I...
:E
SABOTAGE!!11111
saain :{
Seriously... who gives a ****?
Custodian
30-05-2003, 20:25
hey.... Com Bog stealing my thunder
damnable cheek :(
I didn't mean to cause trouble! Honest!
/me runs back to his dark corner of jk2 and hides
Originally posted by Slam
Seriously... who gives a ****?
No point in having a clock at all if it's wrong. It could make people late for work, stupid people that is ;)
Feck... so that's the reason why I was late. :{
I deliberately set the time wrong to engineer a topic on the Forums.
No it's NTPD miss reading the time stamp from the clock server.
Fixed now.
Qube
Not sure why the Forums say that it's running on GMT when it's not though.
One for Mr. Breath that.
Qube
This needs a little fact finding trip to the vb support forums as there is no BST time option in the admin cp
Unless somone knows of a hack that can do it?
Do it yourself you lazy arse.
it depends how you look at it
if you ask me the forum clock is an hour fast, as it should be set to GMT so those outside the UK know how many hours to add/subtract.
The UK user should then goto their CP and set it to GMT+1 during BST.
On the other hand as wireplays a UK GSP then if your going to have the server at BST then just edit the template and change GMT to BST...
I had a dream about this thread last night - soo sad :/
Custodian
08-06-2003, 22:19
Reality is right.
At the moment the clock is wrong. It is wrong because the forum states that "All times are GMT. The time is now 22:18". BUT the clock has been set to BST not GMT, and therefore that statement is wrong.
Also, if anyone in another time zone has attempted to select their own in the usercp it will adjust wrong due to the start point being wrong.
The Solution is easy:
Either
[1] The time needs to go back an hour so that it really is GMT
or
[2] The statement needs to be changed to say "All times are BST".
As vBulletin does not have a BST setting I reckon changing it to state "All times are BST" would be easiest for most. Leave anyone not on BST to work it out for themselves ;)
At least the clock would be right.
BTW... I have noticed that other UK based vBulletin sites have made the same mistake, i.e. set the clock to BST but state GMT. I guess they just don't care about Johnny Foreigner, just keep it simple for the Brits :E
Ok done a little edit of the template.. it now says BST
Custodian
08-06-2003, 23:50
You mean... it was that easy ??
You was just encouraging more chatter weren't you :P
so, anyone up for the same discussion sometime around october? :E
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