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Coldbayne
31-01-2005, 14:04
I've noticed over the past few days an individual sitting on dol guldur who is around level 10, continually partying up with new players purely for the sake of getting easy xp from those individuals as they go around doing the starting quests. If it were purely from the "i am being helpful to new players" approach I wouldnt be posting here. But...this person runs roughshod over any other newbie party doing current quests whilst being generally rude and setting a somewhat negative vibe for any new prospective player. Indeed i've also asked around and they also have a reputation as a bit of a griefer.
What's your take on this, since I suspect they'll just say they've been helpful to new players.
Perhaps as a stop gap add code that if higher than say level 7 you get no xp from the dol guldur quests if someone else in party completes a quest. That way it cant be said that you're doing the quest for xp and in fact you are genuinely doing it to assist them.
Hmm, I don't know who you're talking about, but it sounds very strange. At level 10, the tiny xp rewards for the dol guldur quest don't gain you anything much, and since you don't get anything from the creatures you'd be far better off moving to isengard or tharbad or something like that, surely. Himling would hold no dangers for a lv 10.
Since I don't know who you're talking about and haven't seen this happen myself, it's hard for me to react. My gut feeling is "that's a bad thing". When I first joined utt1, I had two higher level chars party with me and go doing quests which (a) seemed random to me, because I was rushed through the quest descriptions etc. without being able to read them, and (b) were above me, so I was standing there feeling useless. I left them as politely as I could after 2 or 3 quests, but I retained the experience that partying with higher levels is very boring for lower-levels (obviously, with exceptions - depends on the style of play and area where it happens). This is why my characters generally won't offer to accompany anyone weaker, even though they'd be glad to come along if asked.
Have you tried talking to some of the characters this person is partying with? Ultimately, it's their impression that counts - do they welcome that char's presence, or does it put them off? Any decision should be based on that.
thromnombulax
31-01-2005, 16:12
I've spotted a few dodgy deeds coldbayne; and had a few tells in game sent asking me about the isengard quests (the person asking was struggling with them and his party).
My take on Gulder is that there are three or four high level orcs running around doing separate missions whilst a low level one sits at Molterz pot.
I have no way of knowing if they are grouped, but my interpretation which is total guess work and inference (based on paranoia induced by years of drug and alcohol abuse and an unhealthy interest in reading philosophy) is that the low level gets the missions and the high levels do them solo (stomping on a low level party once i saw too whilst i was following "hidden"), they all report back to Gulder and complete all the missions, boosting the low level orc who sat cooking hobbit stew.
Strangely, the low level orc character then vanishes to be replaced by a high level one, whilst one of the "old" high level ones vanishes to be replaced by a new low level one (repeat) . I saw this over the weekend before and after a reset.
My characters hide/move silent skill is quite good.
He likes Lard too.
I have encountered this delightful orc. And unfortunately would like to make my opinions known. Having started a new character in Dol Guldor, i was immediately accosted and told to kneel before him. Being arrogant I refused. Fair enough...
*rant mode on*
However over the last week he has been getting more and more aggresive too me. Killing my familiar for no reason, interupting me while I was talking to a merchant. By starting a barter with me so I was immediately booted out of the trade screen. That happened twice in quick succession. Even after telling him I was busy. Then he had the nerve of say //ooc I am bored want to fight? or something along those lines. This to me, being at least 5 or 6 levels lower than him was a bit off in my opinion. He then quickly went to dislike.
Fine I can cope with this sort of thing however today I met him again, and guess what the same thing happened, he threatened me and another person, lower level than me. Before proceeding to kill me. I am aware of roleplaying, but there is taking the bullying a bit far. Trying to start a fight with a low level mage is laughable when you are a high level barbarian. After killing me, he very kindly told me my companion could raise me (him being only level 3). Understandably I was abit miffed and called him a fool. (oops really bad language I know), he then refused to help me. I am aware that PvP encounters do not require the person to raise the opponent, but come on... that was pushing it.
*rant mode off*
I do not wish to cause problems with this player, however some kind reminders on the way to play PvP encounter is needed.
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 17:32
tell him if he wants fight ask one of the many good characters that would gladly kill such an idiot
I did encounter him on another day, as Gloisin. And I have never seen an orc run so fast, when I told him to leave an elf in Tharbad alone.
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 18:22
sounds to me like a bully please post his characters name see if he ever dares leave mirkwood again
I am reluctant to name names, as I find that a bit vindictive. Those that know of him and the rest of the Brady Bunch (the group of 4-5 orcs that always run around together) can try to remedy the problem. If asked by a DM I will name the person however.
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 18:36
your right guyror this is best in the hands of the dms
On that note I have spoken in mIRC to one of the above posters and have a list of names. We will monitor and see what action needs to be taken. Please understand we must see it happen to be able to do anything. Hopefully all it will need is a little chat with those involved.
I want the names of all these offending login/s and I will wipe their accounts immediately.
Coldbayne
31-01-2005, 18:55
Well the main one I spotted was a character named Vunak
I can't do much without a login :( Someone try to get it.
yesterday we had an encounter with i guess it was vunak
and i want to defend him:
you should give him a chance so he really started very funny things i really enjoyed like his orc was diguised as an ugly lady...
Coldbayne
31-01-2005, 19:22
Details sent via PM, but as Morez mentions give the guy a chance, since i know i've messed up myself in the past.
thromnombulax
31-01-2005, 19:45
They just need to read/understand the rules maybe, as well as the RP aspect to prevent all the OOC public talk ..."heh we are lev 7 in 3 days" on talk channel doesnt hold out a lot of hope maybe though...perhaps a dm can be Khamul/ Saruman for them to give em orders to protect new "black numenoreans" instead of smashing them. :)
From talking to this 'orc' in question on a few occasions. I believe he was trying to start a war between the orcs and humans. I then told him to take the matter up with Khamul, unfortunately at that time a there was no DM on for me to ask for help with the roleplaying. Because I would of loved to see the little worm squirm.
I am intending to avoid Dol Guldor for a while with my character now, since 'the orcs are so crude and uneducated, so cannot possibly understand my particular needs' :)
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 20:06
sorruy ar'nt the orcs allready at war with the humans but we do not kill each other when we see each other as it would lead to some unpleasant experiances for some players
thromnombulax
31-01-2005, 20:17
They were stomping on their human masters (black numenoreans start at dol gulder too) with little attempt at RP as far as i saw.
I tried to RP talking to saruman and Khamul about it, but as you say with no DM presence it was tough to make them understand.
Its the OOC chat that hit me the hardest when i saw them, Argon, not the fact that they were attacking people who had just started, spoiling low lev party missions by barging in solo straight for the bosses and looting all they could.
As i've said on other posts, i'm new-ish to the game but, in the perhaps 6-7 weeks i've played on this server, i reckon it rocks. Over the weekend i considered trying a few other RP servers due to the actions of these players.
Cullkett
31-01-2005, 20:18
I think these orcs want action and PvP more than anything else thats fair enough (everyone to there own eh) but this is a rp server.
Nuff said
Thromnombulax - don't let the actions of a few drive you away.
I think you should ignore them and stay here, besides I want Khazaldor in more of my events ;)
Luthianna
31-01-2005, 20:46
Well, Alyssandra's met these guys a couple of times now, but i've got to say *one* of them is a damn good orc (Barush-something.. i think) that I really enjoyed meeting... the others, don't really *sound* too orc-like.. they just sound...normal.
The main one you're talking about here though I also saw in Bree when I was trying to make myself a bit more useful, he followed us off on our quest, asked me if we were good/evil (if we were good, he said he was going to kill us all)..and when i said never you mind whether we're good or evil, he decided we were good and went chasing off after the rest of my party..
Nothing happened in the end apart from people getting a little annoyed about this orc following us about and rushing ahead of us to kill things.... but it wasn't enjoyable...
(i do admit to telling them off a bit about that too... couldn't help it)
A bit later though they were much better... so perhaps they'd killed their fill for the day, i don't know...
I'd just keep an eye on them and let them *know* they're being watched...
... sorry there was a urgent interruption before i couldnt finish my last post:
alll i wanted to say is that i only met this orc once and he made me to have fun...he really RPed when he was disguised as ugly lady
just a funny PvP encounter where noone was killed . just a short hit and run interlude where at the end i dueled him and won
actually i wasnt pleased with the end cause my personal RP wasnt that good
(tried to justify Yûshmar's behaviour to Argon and i think i was succesful but it was close to not very good RP :) )
i dont know what this orc does when i dont see him. this is just that what i saw.
finally people should learn here and i guess he actually has the run after RP so i wouldnt wipe him immediately.....
sorry for confusing words
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 23:42
i remember that orc he followed us to just out side rivendell from the gap of rohan
thromnombulax
01-02-2005, 00:11
Yeah i have thoroughly enjoyed my time on the server in the main, and your quests have been a prime reason Lorien, i aint goin nowhere (dodgy legs) but they need gently guiding into line them ors :)
Savageprayer
01-02-2005, 00:24
yep i know this orc to he was farming for gold when i ran into him with my party in the stoors. went straight to the mayor killed them and left with the remains. then my group moved to the tomb and he was the when we left he could hardly move he was carring so much. the only thing i have seen him do so far is farm.
Rest assured it is being looked into. All the Dm's are aware of the character names and now most of the logins - we will take the necessary action.
I urge, where possible, training and shaping new players. I exhort the DMs to pull them aside and train them if possible. For someone not used to RP or being sorta young in RL, this server is a very different place.
DMs have unrivaled power, use it judiciously to shape if possible this erring oaf.
thromnombulax
01-02-2005, 10:55
Eloquently put GammaGM. I second that motion.
But can they be publicly flogged in Tharbad too, DM's ? Pleasssseeee?? I know a watchman who would be (considerably) more than happy to oblige... ;)
Argon Balros
01-02-2005, 11:08
perhaps being exiled from dol guldor would be a more apropiate punishment
thromnombulax
01-02-2005, 11:25
More appropriate, perhaps Argon. But nowhere near as much fun.
A flogging i say. To within a Crebain's tooth of their wretched lives. Then peel the hide off them and dip them in salt water. Slowly. Thence to the amputations. Half a limb at a time. That should gently nudge them into line.
"It's not easy, having a good time. Even smiling makes my face ache." (FranknFurter, Rocky Horror):skull:
Rodorick
01-02-2005, 14:14
I met these four orcs out in the wilderness one day... they were agressive, demanded that I beg, told me it was my bad day, summoned a familiar. So I gave them my own little display, and they left with their tail between their legs. All in all, a fun encounter. From what I see here, the rumor is this group is terrorizing others. Next time, I shoot first and ask questions later.
hold your horses thromnombulax, you're mixin up ic and ooc
thromnombulax
01-02-2005, 17:58
nah they talk ooc ic dsan1
such as "we got lev7 in 4 days" in talk channel
and i really do want to flay them
yes
It's intentions were towards humour dsan1. I'm British and it is our disease i fear, to utilise humour at any and every opportunity. I have scars to prove it.
i know you were kidding, i just thought all those torture suggestions go a little too far. but nevermind, i know there is more than one idea of humour.
see you!
thromnombulax
01-02-2005, 18:08
heh ....no you wont dsan1, unless you have true seeing
*buhahahahhhahhaha(cough)hahahhaha*
:)
Argon Balros
01-02-2005, 18:08
if he had not go over the top with the sugestion people might have thought he was serious
be sure i have:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
Prophet7
01-02-2005, 18:47
It was my brand spanking new...almost...orc (lvl 3) that got crushed along with Guyror's. I know I cannot speak about bullying low levels, but at least Tyrion was after the other faction. I just ask for permission to have Gloisin and Tyrion go orc hunting....*mischevious grin*
well.. hi everyone :)
first i would like to apologise if anyone is unhappy about the way the orcs are being played, I myself have an orc (Uruk Hai) called Barash'Matum, (it was me you met Luthianna.. and thanks for the compliment.. I think :) )and party regularly with the rest of the Orcs in question. I have RP'd online now for over 2 years and have found this server to be really enjoyable, good quests, good RP and a good community.
I know that this is no excuse but the guys (apart from one of us) are really new to the game and RP.. like 2 weeks.. so they have a lot to learn. I am trying to coach them in the right direction by stopping the fights before thay happen (if I'm present) insults can be thrown around but i will get them to draw the line at that, unless, of course, the other player doesnt mind entering pvp. I will ensure that all read this thread so they understand what is required of them.. and the rules....
ok.. the farming ...
that is purely accidental and wont happen again...
well thats all really :).. Apologise again if anyone has spoiled anyone elses enjoyment.. see you all out there :) *Gives Vunak a bash around the ear*....
Luthianna
01-02-2005, 20:51
Well, you play an excellent orc - keep teaching them :)
Thankyou for clarifying things Ogomis.
We won't take any action, though DMs will keep an extra eye out for a while, purely due to the number of complaints we recieved.
However I am confident that your friends will adopt the general spirit of the community. Thankyou for your comments and enjoy the game :)
wyrmwrath
01-02-2005, 22:22
This is off the initial topic, if its too far of please move it as needed.
With all the talk about PVP, I would like to state that anytime anyone encounters one of my PCs, A.G.D. (alexis of rohan) Or anson oakgrove, I give you permission to initiate PVP combat without any RPing at that moment and/or setting me to hostile(i would say you could even set me to hostile on log in) AS LONG AS SOME REASON ALREADY EXISTS that would make it RP apprapo. For ecample, Khaev & necron have already butted heads with alexis. If Necron (yes I know he has no plans to return, but lets pretend) approached while invisible and blasted her, i would not be upset AT ALL. Why? Because that is how an evil person would likely attack a defender of the good guys like alexis, expecilay a mage attacking a warrior.
I also would rather that if somone kills one of my PCs in PVP, please dont waste a raise scroll, i think a player should have to respawn after such a defeat...just like if a monster kills ya while soloing. Now if its RP apprapo for your PC to burn the raise, fine. I personaly am a bit of a hard nosed player with thei stuff, and wouldnt care if losing exp made ya lose levels too. I think its kinda "sissafied" to get raised after PVP envounters.
I am on no way saying that i will be assaulting others in this manner, rules are rules unless you make a similar open declaration as this one.
I also am in no way trying to alter the server guidelines.
I also realise this isnt for everyone. If you do not want to take advantage of my views should your PC and mine clash, that is fine too.
Been meaning to post this, juft figured this was a good spot for it.
I don't really have a problem with this sort of thing, provided its consented to by both players.
The rule simply exists because some players dont like being attacked 'because they are good/evil. They like to fight only after theres been a good initiation for it.
And yes, for kill on sight, there must be a reason for it. And as I said befoe, being good/evil is not a reason. We can think up better reasons than that :)
wyrmwrath
02-02-2005, 02:40
Well actualy, in a setting where those that are evil ( or neutral greedy AKA evil) have sided with a commander whose goal is to rule over evenyone by whatever means available( not even nessecary...available) even at the cost of innocent lives, forcing those responsible and /or able to protect those that cannot, through military force...."he is good/evil" is THE reason. either your working for Sauron and are ordered to help defeat (AKA kill) the opposing good guys, or you are sided with those that stand up against saurons evil forces and forced to kill them since they will not be reasoned with or stopped by any other manner.
Im not saying anyone should ignore the server rules, they are there to prevent hard feeling for players that dont like getting killed "for no reason"/for reasons they arent fully aware of or accept/understand. They are present to prevent blatant random slaughter by evil PCs like Khaev that, after much time and investiture on the part of his player have few active PCs that can stand against him one on one. I am not saying that khaev does just kill for no reason, but he is the highest level evil PC I belive. That means if everyone played by my standards, he could just slaughter any Pc he discivered was saided against him or that failed to earn his favor in some way. The rules are designed to give the level 2 new player a chance to get the heck out of Dodge when confronted with an opponent like that.
My goal was simply to say that inspite of the rules, I will not cry or complain if the foes of my PCs just decide to put a beat down on them for in game reasons. Not everyone like to play RP games lin a manner consistant with what would really happen if the game world existed, I do. So unless the DMs veto this, i say if your PC would atatck mine without warning or talking....come get some.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled porgram already in progress...
Argon Balros
02-02-2005, 03:36
i think there should be areas where kos is allowed and welcome not hunting grounds but the roads too and from places this will really make those trips exciting
thromnombulax
02-02-2005, 12:30
Your orc did seem the only one to "sound" like an orc Barash, even when the others were talking in abbreviated English, you soldiered on, from what i saw at least, so hats off to you.
On the good/evil note, i understand where wyrm is coming from, but a cowardly rogue is unlikely to physically attack anything unless it feels it has a clear advantage and an open escape route:)
On the good/evil note, i am a bit disappointed by the actions of some so called "goodies" ; being physically pushed when saying "hello my pretty" seems more Neutral than Good in my opinion; throwing ones weight around (school bully - types) similarly so. I firmly believe that kill on sight is more evil/neutral than good also, unless this involves race enemies.
In a quasi-medieval setting, courtship rituals aint necessarily what they are today. A slap on the face may be considered an invitation to initiate a courtship dance, eh? (dashes off to read up on basic psychology) :D
This is definately going off topic
Argon Balros
02-02-2005, 12:35
you called her a whore :0 lol
thromnombulax
02-02-2005, 13:07
*cough* Heh :) She mentioned that profession first; besides i intended only some light-hearted relief (he seemed down on IRC) and need to disguise in Tharbad in case my twin is there *giggles childishly*
Thanks for that tip about clicking portraits to send tells btw ; it saves opening the players window and searching for a name which is a major distraction.
On the two fronts -
1) Kill in Sight, I do understand where you are all coming from on this, but I'll keep things with my chharacter where they are for now. As to being good/evil being justification for KoS this I cannot agree with. Firstly our setting is between Bilbo leaving the shrie a second time, and Frodo leaving - therefore open war hasn't been declared, Saruimans behaviour is odd, but he has made no outright attacks on Rohan, and clashes are onging between Mordor and Gondor, but no more than usual.
Secondly, in most wars there have been cases where two opposing soldiers (and due to uniforms these oppositions are more obvious) have encountered one another and rather than attempt to kill each other been quite friendly. Orc and Elf?Dwarf having a friendly chat - maybe not, but two humans on opposing sides? Its quite possible.
On your thing about bullying Thromnombulax, Negnus only stepped up to Ashia's side when she made it clear she didn't want your attentions. That was perfectly in characetr for him. He has been travelling with Ashia longer than most and will defend her to the end - the fact is I know as a player that Khazaldor would rip him to pieces, but I would have behaved the same way if only Ashia and Negnus had been there, without all the heavies.
thromnombulax
02-02-2005, 14:23
Yup am in total agreement on the KoS argument there ghost (argument meaning debate not "ill punch you on the nose"); think thats what i meant to say but seem to have mis edited me post.
Again, it wasnt my intention to point a finger with the bullying thing mate, and i understand that the goods will stick up for a maiden in distress, it was merely the form of that defense ie "pushing" rather than stepping in between or threatening first that i considered marginally dodgy...must have been ale the ale flowing i suppose. Apologies to anyone if i've caused a misunderstanding -- no criticism of players or styles intended, just fishing for peoples thoughts.
Yeah I see what you mean - can't answer on that though - all Negnus did was finger his axe haft, scowl and frown.
stormbringerii
02-02-2005, 15:02
Yeah but ghost..thats all Negnus ever does anyways.... :)
Argon Balros
02-02-2005, 15:12
argons know for being quick to action
and even with the wisdom the years have brought him he is still a little too quick to anger
Argon Balros
02-02-2005, 18:38
it comes from his time with the barbarian tribes as a young man i'm sure
wyrmwrath
03-02-2005, 17:20
Ghost, while I agree that during war there are cases where warriors/soldiers from opposing side may "parlet" rather than simply initiate combat, during war those would be the exception and not the rule. Especialy if we are speaking about an age when the tech level doesnt allow for sneaking up on the enemy with an assault style fire arm and ordering thier surrender, shooting them if they take action. While still an option with bows/crossbows, it was hardly anywhere near the norm.
Now if the server is set during the time frame you stated, I can understand the "parlet before pulverise" rule a bit more. Especialy for the good guys. I still say that if Gandalf has shown up at Bag end, with news of the history of the ring, and noticed a few orcs near, there would have been little conversation on his part. I also hold that attacking on sight is more appropriate for evil PCs than good ones, depending on who the recieving enemy is/would be.
Again, I do not feel atacking on sight is proper for every PCs personality, and even when its right for the PC it might not be for the situation. All I wanted to do was post publicly that i was ok with it if somone felt it was correct to assack my PCs in that manner, and it fit the situation. If Alexis or Anson gets jumped, win or lose I wont be griping.
DizLoony
04-02-2005, 09:56
Finaly, I can post:P
Ok, to make it clear, I am the lead orc in charge.
Three of those orcs are brandnew to rpging and nwn. Brandnew.
So bear with them. Im not, so please, if you have a problem, sort it out with me, rather then post it to an entire public.
Ive also read a number of accusations in this treath, Ill try to answer to as many as I can.
-I do like to appoligy if we disturbed any low level parties that where questing, it where untoughtfull actions, it wont happen again.
-farming itself..yes, I can only speak for myself in that part. but I never saw it as farming because it was a quest in a hurry. low level quests. Let me explain why(not the xp or gold) One of the new orcs his chars kept crashing after he reached a second/third/fourth level, and while he did start to play here the same day as me, he already has about 10 chars maybe of low level, because they crashed and he cant use them anymore. So everytime he build a new we tried to keep him a bit on to level with the rest of us and hoped we've seen the last of his charactercrashes. (I think that is fixed now:cool: pfw:D )
-As for the PvP, first I'd like to know..preferably from a dm..Isnt there a war going on? Or is it as Ghost says? and no open war ..yet? can a dm comfirm this please?
-AS for the PvP itself. Ive noticed many players pointed fingers at us or me....But I NEVER attacked any player first. So all those "good"guys and low levels whining did attack my bully first with deadly weapons or spells. So I just defended myself. i wont name names..but obvious to the person in character is why i wonder does a tiny young scared aprentice mage wants to rumble against a big warhungry black orc? only to ooc call me names after his loss....try to keep your rp and ooc seperated.
I do admit, I provoced allot, because I was under the impression there was a war and my orc despices humans, especialy now the time of the orc is uphand, and the era of man comes to an end.
But the provoke was usually leading toward a point where we could be bribed or begged to in order not to kill/fight players who dont wish to pvp. As for ourself, I dont believe we ever complained about the times we just got here and got killed (more then once) by a party of 3 or 4 times our level(and they attacked us first then to). Or the times high level players stole our quest from under our nose after all the trouble to get there.
Anyway..Till this is sorted out, I have changed my characters personality a bit to ease the problems there are. Putted my grudges on rest, ill speak to "manlings" and wont pvp.
Its a great server, would be sucky if I get kicked for this.
It is also true some of the others still talk ooc with their chars, I'm trying to corect them whenever I can. And..if Im not mistaken..someone told me I didnt rp my orc well...can that person then please tell me how I should rp an int6 orc???:hmph:
The setting is as ghost describes above, open war as such hasn't been declared, although its not exactly peace either. To give some idea of where we are in the timeline - Bilbo has had his party and left the Shire, Frodo has the ring but doesn't know anything about it, Saruman's betrayal is not (really) out in the open, Theoden is himself, Theodred is alive, Osgiliath is held by Gondor, Faramir hasn't had his dream so Boromir hasn't left for Rivendell. So open war isn't a matter of course - lots of the machinations of the enemy are still done through stealth - spreading discord etc. In fact the enemy probably isn't fully aware that the ring has been found yet.
Obviously in a world with PvP this can't be followed exactly and there are quests/events which step over these boundaries, but PvP here has always been relatively rare - after all we are an RP server rather than an action server.
We have continued to watch this group of Orcs, and we are pleased to see that they are now adapting to this roleplay environment well :)
A good idea to play an INT 6 Orc would be to dumb down your speech to begin with. No long words. Very simple talk. Technically speaking, your character should be unable to read :)
DizLoony
04-02-2005, 12:31
He cant read, can only count to five(on his fingers) , but ive easened his speaking a bit because there were quite some players that didnt understand him. And when it comes to talking to someone important, he slip his ring of intelligence on, so he at least understands what they say and mean. On some occasions he may seem smarter then he actualy is, but he is not to bright.
And as for pvp, Ill keep myself and my orcs at peace, untill my lord commands us to do otherwise ofcourse.;)
Argon Balros
04-02-2005, 13:23
i hate to argue but there may be a very slight inacuracy in loriens list of what has not yet happened.
here it is Boromir has left for rivendell for a council meeting but perhaps it could be a different one.
I disagree - if you look in the Throne Room of the citadel in Minas Tirith you will find Denethor, Boromir and Faramir all present and correct. So unless he's mastered the uncanny skill of being in two places at once Boromir most definitely has not left for Rivendell for a council meeting.
Argon Balros
04-02-2005, 13:33
at the end of one dm quest the elegan one denethor was given a leter calling a council meeting in rivendell boromir was sent.
Thats entirely down to the individual DM runing the event. His main home is in Minas Tirith.
After Bilbo left the Shire, Frodo did not leave for another 9/10 years or so. So we decided that Boromir best be left in Minas Tirith, since he was not sent to Rivendell to seek council yet.
This meeting in Rivendell wasn't the council - that was never called in the same way as it appears in the films, that took place because various people have travelled to Rivendell for different reasons - The Hobbits with the Ring, The Dwarves to say that the enemy was seeking Bilbo and Boromir because his brother had had a dream foretelling of Isildur's Bane in the halflings hand.
(The event in question is one I ran, it wasn't meant to give the impression that Boromir was being called to that council - the meeting in question was more to do with 'The Politics of War' events I'm running - more will become apparent soon.)
Coldbayne
04-02-2005, 18:06
Could you close my topic thread down now, this farming topic has gotten way off topic and besides the issues raised now resolved.
Argon Balros
04-02-2005, 18:18
ok
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