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DM_Longbeard
22-11-2004, 18:35
I'd like to see players posting here when they feel another player or a DM has made your moments of roleplaying more fun and enjoyable.
No bad vibes on this thread or Aulë will resmelt you.
LB
The defence of Erebor was great fun - and guess what, no one went running away to heal or get the dragons trapped behind the furniture. Now that was a good standup fight, very typical of the exploits that stem from the Anvil. It was great to get the old wall back together for a decent scrap - Dargo, Balac, Lolinus and Veld. Shame Dun was busy stocktakin he would have enjoyed hisself :)
Aye, that was great. It was the Dwarven wall doing what it does best - fightin'. We may have taken it in turns to back off and heal up (not rest) but then thats why we party. This makes me want to keep playin' as Lolinus right up to when UTT2 comes out and I restart him.
Great stuff, we had a good few hours of wholsome RP fun, lots o chatting, drinking and fighting and the wall. Our beloved Aule showed up too, and showed us how good a drinker he is, and we defended bravely our city - untill we get Mordor back that is!
The Dwarven wall consisted of four individuals, the screenies show just how different we all look, part from the height (hehe). And being all different we compliment each other well! Great stuff.
Long live the Dwarves, down with the dragons!
Aule be Praised but that Valar can drink;
Good dragons and good stout dwarven defending did we 4 But;
Damn can he Drink
height comparisons and dead dragons here...
http://www.silverdelve.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pages/Gallery01.htm#
clone number 3
22-11-2004, 19:30
Nice pics Fasin!
Argon Balros
22-11-2004, 20:30
just before the sever went down i had a good rp session,
Argons had a daughter(new character for UTT2) we where having a party to celebrate lots of singing and drinking a dam good time. little did i know kerve and kerrac where spying on us the over heard i had a daughter so they destroyed the gates we heard the comotion i told them to leave but they they rfused and laughed at us so i put diskike on and attacked for some reason i followed them throught the zone transition with out wanting to the guards followed also and i slew kerve kerrav then killed me with some death magic and raised kerve before help arrived a battle ensued most of my freinds died in the battle but not all they raised argon he used a scroll to restore his health to full they then began to ock him threatening his family he told em to stop but they did not so he lost his temper and attack kerrac. kerrac ran into the mountains and eventualy argon caught up and kerrac died, then argon and keve began to battle and a snow lion joined in it was a close fight and most enjoyable.
all togeather a good event thanks too all present
Very nice website that Fasin... thanks for sharing..
only one problem........ I spent most of my morning at work looking trhough it:O
Hey this is Longbeads self-aggrandisement thread :P
Thanks mate, now get back to that grindstone :)
Seems to be turning into a dwarven thread but - Dargo and Lolinus' drunken seesion lying on the ground outside the Greyflood Inn after the Arena was great fun, some decent RP. Can't really remember what we said, but it was a pure RP session, with no combat or anything.
peterjer
24-11-2004, 21:59
it was a real good night then argon but it was a shame i had left early would be good fun fighting those damn dark ones......
and now just like on the party i will again perform a cliche trick....
i must say farewell to everyone*puts magic ring on*POOF.......................................................... .
Prophet7
08-12-2004, 15:45
My favorite Tolkien creature has always been the Ent. So huge and powerful, yet when I finally got strong enough to venture into Fanghorn Forest I was really disappointed. Not a single Ent in sight! My character background even said that I learned from the Ents in Fanghorn, but it didn't look like I would ever get a chance to roleplay it.
Then on my way through the forest a massive Ent stood before me, and asked me to go orc crushing with it! I don't know which DM it was, but whoever you are, thanks. That was the first time a DM in any mod I've tried actually added to my gameplay. And I saw that there are Ents in UTT2...I can't wait.
One of the many things that I enjoyed about UTT1 was the eccentricities that many players added to their characters' behaviour that made them more than just warriors, mages, rogues etc. For example and in no particular order:
- Greg's charming ignorance.
- Frain's ravenous appetite.
- Gloili's endless abuse of "pointy-ears"
- Cara's judgemental haughtiness
- Fasin's gruff kindness
- Azalith's intractable pride
- Argon's dangerous temper
- Palli's inappropriate flirtatiousness
- Halucia's barely restrained wildness
I could go on, these are just a few that spring to mind. I have met too many characters who's wierd and wonderful ways have made adventuring in UTT1 an enjoyable and challenging experience to mention them all.
Thanks to you all.
:)
-Vinduil's respect for "elders" and tirless defence of Rivendell.
Argon Balros
09-12-2004, 13:27
Frains exploits have made me laugh more times than i can remember,
Vinduil just seems like an elf its uncanny,
Halucia and azaliath wandering around the camp eating insects while in badger form, Halucia licking argons face to say hello and goodbye(wolf form),
Lex the evil wizard who some how seems to make his particular brand of evil sound good, Kerve disguised as a guard in tharbad winding people up,
Road tolls belacose, beveral, kerve,miriam.ect
Avram for his eagerness to right any wrong no matter how small,
Altan for giving a strong feeling of remource when speaking of his past,
and so so many others thank you all and i hope you all will join us in utt2
Argon Balros
09-12-2004, 13:29
I-spy with Aneldur Sianei
Gruff Kindness --- :) ive never heard of that one, thanks.
One more - Veld's knees :P
After being on a small journey near Bree with 3 other elvenfolk, a DM kindly added to the RP with little touches, most had more relevence to two of my companions than to me, but I could see they loved it and that's awesome in my opinion. I personally had a tear in my eye from when a black antelope took some interest in us, ahhhh what this means to a druid cannot be described!
It's these little things that make it so much more than what nwn usually is. I personally cannot remember seeing DM's interact in such subtle yet effective ways. Another moment from tonight was when whichever DM it was took control of the innkeeper in the Prancing Pony . Absolutley perfect! Added to the RP of it all, making it seem so much more real. The party then sat down to a meal and a VERY long yet extremely enjoyable tale by one of my companions. This probably would not have been as good had it not been for the prior interaction helping our minds become immersed in our roles.
I must give thanks to whoever the DM was for putting little touches to a fine adventure. Also thanks to Lorinol, Aviel and Uneriol for being awesome roleplayers! :D
Siomelithrar Aluinialonor
Elven Druid
Last night i stayed up until yon time but didnt regret losin the sleep one bit. I was invited along and couldnt resist the urge to delve into the depths of Moria. The party Veld travelled with RPed very well, Samson Stronghand (shame about the scythe lad), Tyrion and Aviel. Well done to the lot of you. And a thousand thanks to Aule and Mandos who were there in spirit as the balrog descended in fury upon our hapless band.
Absolutely great night and Kev this Moria gets my vote as the best area ive ventured into so far. Nice and tough. Lots of winning through battered to a pulp. Buffing be damned, lets bleed like stuck pigs in a clumsy butchers. Thats the way. Twice Veld was down to less than 10 hp but that only makes the fightin more desperate and more excitin, and besides he didnt have much to heal with. :)
*Veld goes off lookin for Lolinus to tell im*
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Really hoping that the crafting system changes soon as I cant afford to make any changes to my gear at all, even at this early stage. Its a bit frustrating not being able to make the armour suit your character. What looks fine on a human, dont always on a large phenotype dwarf. Maybe Longbeard's system will be more practical and affordable. At the moment it costs more to make even minor changes than to buy a new suit of plate. Basically by the time ive got the gold together to make the changes, I'm ready for and can afford new plate.
DM_Longbeard
16-12-2004, 02:33
Actually... the whole thing was my doing... quite tricky to pull off at that hour with half a bottle of whiskey in me... :)
I've had ideas about the crafting you're talking about there Fasin. *grins and sups another doom* I may have something for that..
*Veld stands aghast, akimbo, and agog - and strains himself*
Ah yes, 'twas a fun evening, I regreted staying up so long at work the next evening though. ;)
Praise for the party of goodies who were stopped on their way to Rivendell and persuaded to pay a small fee for the support of orphans in Tharbad...a little lie spun by a party of evil characters.
Prophet7
18-12-2004, 10:23
Yesterday I was with a large party in Rohan, and after killing a drake Elriela and I split for Erebor. On our way we stopped to talk and our low level companions passed us for the Wold. When we caught up with them they are hard pressed by Uruks, and when we helped finish them we were all confronted by Saruman. He summoned a massive Devil that regenerated, and we spent a good 15 minutes hacking away at the beast as a young healer Marcus constantly tended our wounds. It was a nice break from the normal quests, and I have to say thanks Kev!!
aka Tyrion Alethas
Rather nasty those devils :)
For every hit they inflict on you, they regenerate 5 hit points. Nobodys seen the epic devils yet :O
Lolinus, Veld and Lorinol were exploring Moria, and we made our way to Zirak-zigil, here we had some very nice RP about the sadness inherent in the place, and some of the history of Durin's folk. A big thumbs up and thanks to those involved.
To add to the above we've just had a gathering of good aligned characters in Edoras, discussin' the various threats facing the free people. Very well played by all, including a near clash between Jade and Norinol which Lolinus and Veld had to stop quickly. Again thanks to all involved. (I notice I seem to enjoy these pure RP moments more than the fighting and stuff - As It Should Be!) ;)
Thanks to a group of players in Eregion for their top notch RP at the ruined temple and in Rivendell with Lord Elrond. Nice one guys.
This is quite a widespread praise and a bit of a celebration too.
All those who took part in sundays 'barricade' quests played really well. 99.9% of the roleplaying was perfect
One thing which caught my eye was a pair of evil elves, spreading their opinions of the good forces after the event. You never see this sort of rp often and it would be great to see more, or the lies of the enemy actually taking hold of some good forces, creating sub-good factions amongst them from time to time. Not everybody has the same opinion on things.
But the big, big thing I want to celebrate is the fact that one of UTT2's goals has been met - tactical party combat. This event saw the introduction and showcasing of the Black Numenorean range of NPCs. Each one using special AI settings to do all manner of things; Getting into a better position to use sneak attacks, healing allies, using stealth, buffing parties with bard spells, using smite good, etc.
This increase in the npc's 'intelligence' meant that the attacking good party had to think up a good plan, and to fight in certain ways. The fight was very exciting to watch and everyone semed to be enjoying themselves.
If you enjoyed that, its just a taster of things to come. All specilaised NPCs in development will use similar systems.
Now UTT2 has had some time to really show itself off, feel free to help us advertise the gameworld to more good roleplayers at our new NW Vault entry:
http://nwvault.ign.com/community/gameworlds/data/1102518750000.shtml
Remember to vote AND comment! Also note we said 'help us advertise'! Please don't do a Nathan and post whines just to get back at the community because you were caught cheating or something :P
Luthianna
20-12-2004, 12:25
I have to say I really *hate* those black numenorian guys now! They fight far too well for my liking ;)
Sunday's quest was fab, though, got to say that. I've never seen such chaos, even when we tried to be better organised!
*Vylenthra whips up a storm to take care of some orcs, a black numenorian sneaks up behind her, then knocks her down and out*
Grr! :D
I´d like to thank the Dm/Dm´s who took the roles of Khamul and his orc captain Gragdush last night.
A most enjoyable and very funny event (from us orcs point of view) when Khamul raised his voice to the impudent humans that we had joined up with for a quest.
And not to forget when the wolf hound sniffed on my character and fell down on the floor.. hehe ;)
Thanks again, I had many laughs.
These little things makes it all the more fun to play here.
DM_Olórin
22-12-2004, 02:08
Thanks to all the players who participated in the ongoing Black Numenorean escapades. A fine time was had by all, DMs and players alike, and I was lucky this time and had me a bit of each. :) There was some great RP and some interesting new enemies were encountered. Sometimes fatally. Well done all.
Hopefully we will be able to conclued our business with Lord Elrond in the very near future.
From a hill overlooking Imladris, Gandalf smiles at the assembled heroes, he turns and nods to the white stag at the treeline. There is a sudden breeze, the setting sun shines brightly in the west and they are both gone...
Thanks to all the players who took part in the conspiricy against Tyrion in Tharbad.
It was fun, and I think everyone roleplayed well! Especially Tyrion, I loved his twist at the end to prove himself innocent! ( damn you tyrion! Elva will get you yet! :dead: :camper: ) :)
So thanks to everyone, it was a fun evening.
~Elva
Yeah, I agree with Corvas, all players made the evening exceptional fun and thanks to Mandos for overseeing it and jumping in now and again. Damn Tyrion for halting his fall from grace engineered by Kiera and Elva. But they will yet have their revenge :)
Prophet7
23-12-2004, 14:36
If they ever get the courage to fight him after he split Kiera in half with his ******* sword!!
dirklabbe
23-12-2004, 15:22
Elva and Karleta,
Congratulations on a dastardly great plot, and on leaving poor Lorinol suspicious, bemused and confuddled (or the other way round) and suffering from logic-overload fromy all those rambling eye-witness accounts.
Of course my kinsman Tyrion was innocent! Just you try explaining yourself before Elrond in Rivendell now. Hah!
Gurth ot Glamhoth !
DM_Longbeard
23-12-2004, 17:21
Actually your friend Tyrion IS a murderer of innocent people... it was seen by many on the Tharbad streets... not just those who are rubbing the salt into the wound...
Another incident happened later that night when Elriela violently struck out at one of the city guards... there is much unrest amongst the free people...
LB
I have enjoyed all of my play so far on UTT2. Just before I get dragged away by the holiday season I'd like to give me warmest praise to:
- the group who roleplayed so well at the shrine of Eregion.
- everyone involved at the recently battles at the Gap of Rohan and Eregion.
- all who took part in the Framing and Shaming of Tyrion in Tharbad.
All of these incidents were praiseworthy and highly enjoyable in different ways. So I wont go on about them but thanks to all involved :)
dirklabbe
23-12-2004, 18:29
Esteemed Master Longbeard,
Having interviewed the eyewitnesses, I found several interesting weaknesses and inconsistencies in their reports, as well as clear indications that some witnesses were more involved than they wish to admit, and may well have unsavory motives.
Furthermore, given the darkness and the possible intervention of a professional assassin, these events could well have been been beyond the ability of ordinary folk to report on reliably. A case of the dagger being quicker than the eye if you will.
And just how trustworthy are those so-called witnesses of yours, may I ask? That guard whose words were as pieces of a jigsaw puzzle? Those Elves who were never seen in Rivendell? Let those of them who claim kinship to us testify under Oath in Rivendell! If they do, we will lend them credence. If not, why do they hide and sulk in Human enclaves? And where else do they abide?
For these reasons, Tyrion's account of the matter must be heard, and must carry weight.
Why, you even sound like that Mayor of Tharbad, who was only too quick to condemn one of our kinsmen without the bother of a trial. Much as we value an appeciate his personal interest in the case though. And whatever became of the ancient tradition to give the suspect a fair hearing? And not to condemn before a trial is made? How can we expect any semblance of fair hearings in Tharbad now? And why this unseemly haste to condemn?
Whilst some of the shorter-lived races will rush to judgement on the strength of accounts from unknown witnesses, we will stand firm in our quest for justice.
You serve your case ill, master Longbeard. From you if anyone I would have seen more wisdom. Are we to believe that the Sons of Durin will henceforth condemn without a trial?
Shame on you!
This gives me an idea! *Logs In*
A note from Lolinus Balix -
An account on the events of Tharbad were passed onto me by a member of the guard there, and I had the misfortune to see the bodies themselves. Despite people calling into doubt Tyrions involvement there can be no doubt that the wounds on the deceased were caused by a heavy bladed weapon, most likely a broadsword or ******* sword. Whilst the dagger may be quicker than the eye, a weapon of such size is not.
However such a blade is heavy, and oft once in motion cannot easily be controlled, mayhap the killings of innocent people of Tharbad was but a mishap. However this could be easily believed of one dead citizen, but of three? Well that does stretch belief.
DM_Longbeard
23-12-2004, 20:39
Arr.. ye try te give people sem facts eh?
I keepin me beard oot ye elfie business in future... oi'll let ye make ye own mistakes an trust tha words'o a murderer...
*returns to his halls to get hammered and continue his secretive work*
LB
A big thankyou to Dove and Veld, who helped me to do a Moria dungeon crawl as it should be done.
It took quite some time, and we entered with over 50 healing kits and 3 Raise scrolls.
We left with under 50% hitpoints each, and only five healing kits left. We were two fighters and a monk, so absolutely buff free.
This was without a doubt my best adventure on UTT2 yet! We worked hard to complete that quest for Glorfindel, andI can honestly say we earnt every point of xp we made and every single gold coin.
Heres looking forward to more quests along the same lines.
The new Moria is fantastic. Only recently started exploring it, and didn't get very far at all... Some brilliant RP from Gregoire Althan and Vylenthra (edit: And Vinduil, of course...), many thanks for letting a dwarf feel the pain of finding unexpected decay where a flourishing city should have been... They really managed to create the impression of being told by a dwarf how it "should be" and how wrong it all is. Had a brilliant time.
*grins* Needless to say, I died... Hope you two made it out alright. I'll have to try again, hopefully in dwarvish company...
For the DM... DM Mandos, who took the time to correct an oversight of mine. He did it without rancor and still got his point across. He did it with humor, which I can appreciate.
The lowest ranking knight of House Eketta
clone number 3
24-12-2004, 00:53
Just to reiterate Gloin's points above, the New moria is superb!
Alas, Gregoire fell battling one too many Ogre wizards :)
And I'd like to thank Gloin, Vylenthra and Vinduil for a really good evening of RP and adventure - thanks guys
*grins* Hmm.... I'd like to point out that it was Glorin, Gloin's brother, who actually went with you tonight. :-p
If they ever get the courage to fight him after he split Kiera in half with his ******* sword!!
Argh.. Prophet, the game isnt all about pvp :confused:
And Elva will face Tyrion eventually... When she is ready to bring out her destructive side. :)
clone number 3
24-12-2004, 10:37
Damn dwarves! Ye all look the same to me :)
Pah... Glorin never polishes his armour as much as Gloin, I'll have you know *grins*
Well done to all at the Trial of Tyrion :)
Although the most crooked court ever seen, Tyrion got away on a not guilty verdict by the 5 selected jury members. Though he ended up paying 2,000 gold pieces for each of the people murdered.
Good show :)
... In fact, I believe he paid rather more than that in his indignation... Not surprised the Mayor didn't tell you, Kev. *grins*
What a highly frustrating, corrupt court... The reply from Aule I got in response to my prayer was a very nice touch.
sullying the good name of Tyrion, high elven prince (Warhammer), tsk tsk, he would never attack an innocent. But still...Im hoping to see more of these types of roleplay encounters, ones which bring people together a bit more in situations other than pvp/city attacks.
Thanks to the DM who made Durin's Bane walk around the lower level of Moria and chase us out of it... Very exciting *grins*
Damn, that wasn't me :(
Nobody does it better...(cue James Bond Tune)
clone number 3
27-12-2004, 01:55
Thanks to all the DMs today for their involvement, especially the creepy Vampire hunt.
Also, thanks to the DMs (two, I believe) who locked us in the Esgaroth haunted tower, had us confront a seemingly invincible Vampire, and finally let us draw it out into daylight and defeat it -- great thinking, guys, that was excellent fun. :-)
DM_Olórin
27-12-2004, 04:07
The Esgaroth and Moria parties were very nearly one and the same with only a couple of changes to their members. A good days RP for you guys from what i saw of it.
Vylenthria, sorry if we made ye nervous... ;)
Aye, me an' Vyl and the big man... Gregoire... We had a good day's travel together, with some more temporary companions on and off. Hope to hang out with these guys more often, it was excellent fun. :-)
Luthianna
27-12-2004, 19:34
Nervous?! Nervous??!!
I *hate* it when it goes all dark and i can't see where things are! especially big vampire's that might eat me! :)
*raises her hand and admits to being both a scaredy cat girl & badger*
Shaking made it much more fun though, and made Gloin laugh at me (sitting next to me whilst I tremble) :)
*grumbles* At this rate, I'll have to praise the DMs every night.
(Not a serious grumble, of course. :-))
Well, it's the little things that make the world come to life. Some DM sent us on a will-o'-wisp chase through shaking crumbling ruins... and made the fight with a certain druid possible (but barely - all of us were out of potions/kits/scrolls by the end of it *grins*), and was generally watching us for quite a long time.
An example of the "little things" - Glorin knocked against the walls of a tunnel a few times in different spots to see how dangerous it was, from a cave-in perspective. After the first knock, little clouds of dust started appearing where he was knocking...
Also, while fighting beasts from the depths of the earth, Vyl splashing lantern oil on them after Glorin explaining they hated light resulted in fireballs... quick thinking! *grins*
DM_Olórin
29-12-2004, 00:31
It's great when players relate their online experiences to others. When the PCs enjoy the adventure it makes the DMs want to get more involved in things and come up with stuff like that... Make creatures bahave in unpredictable ways, like the trickster Wisp leading them a merry dance into danger and safety... a few harmless pyrotechnics... the odd visual effect (OK a lot of visual effects)...
When the players play along with whats going on in the world its very satisfying for the DMs who add the "little things". Theres nowt more frustrating than a player who ignores these things because they cabnt wait to get at the loot and XP. Personally I'm happier doin that than throwing monsters at them all the time, though I do that too sometimes especially with them what dont play nice... :P
I feel that when players really try to stay in character at all times and RP together when others simply dont bother to do that except when they have to, I do thinjk that the occasional (and I mean occasional) helping hand is appropriate. Whether it goes against "realism" or not, I'm no rules lawyer, I'd rather see a party have a great time and complete the quest successfully. Hell, chances are Im having as much fun as they are and I dont want it to end in an unsatisfying manner. It was like that in my PnP days. Reward the GOOD RPers with attentive (and maybe sympathetic) DMing where possible. The BAD RPers get my attention too of course, often to their detriment and a lot of bad language. Not all the DMs here will agree with me, but thats the way I do it. :P
Glad you had fun... cos I did :)
Whichever DM's it were that decided to get us all worked up over the geysers in Forochel that was an interesting bit of work. I was sorta hoping for something to pop out of the geyser, even an old man who said, "what the 'ell am I doing here?" Ahh well I once tortured a whole room full of players for 2 hours because they were sure, absolutely convinced, that there was something to an in-depth description of a fishing hole in a stream, other than a spot to fish.
Prophet7
29-12-2004, 17:04
A few days ago I helped someone do the first Rohan quest, and when we got down to the drake at the end, I RP'ed caution by saying the ground was shaking from something bigger than a giant walking around. Next thing I know the DMs made the ground shake, and after the dragon was killed there was a nice fireworks display...Looks like Mithrandir still has a few up his sleeve...haha...
To all the players who were in the fight to clear the blockade of the greenway.
Very entertaining to watch :D
Aye, I enjoyed the Blockade of the Greenway very much. Especially enjoyed Lucius taking a thrall for himself and whipping him whenever orders were disobeyed.
Very good fun indeed
From the 'good' point of view it was nice to actually win one of these. But also good fun to be part of.
I enjoyed the afters, a certain group of evil characters listening into the remains of the good party and following them towards Edoras. We stood on guard for a good 10 minutes there, and started sneaking out to try and spot any intruders - good RP all round after the event.
I have to praise two players, met them the other day did Scrill while stumbling around, looking for scrolls. Shed made her way to Forochell and met Wulfus. He came up like a gent, he could see i was a lass of Morgoths by my attire, i dont hide the fact, so we had some polite conversation. Then up walked Culkett and said "thank god i havent paid all that gold to get here for nothing.... hello!!" We went off to do carn dum crypt, with the chessboard. I have done it before, but my boys hadnt, and so much fun it was following them around, not guiding. Watching them get puzzled by the puzzles.
I have to say though, you two are great fun, we are serious evils and we were havin a good laugh, the mission was great, im not sure if you two knew what you were doing or not, i just hope a DM was watching cos they a been in stitches, specially with the slip going over the chessboard. We made a real good team, you let me stand back and shout abuse while you hacked away at the undead. Definatley one o the best few hours i've spent here - really good RP, which was funny too. Those two boys are good company.
'Winks at Wulfffusss and Cull'. Hi boys ;)
Cullkett
31-12-2004, 19:15
Yes that was really good fun and great to meet up with with scrill, Culls really got a soft spot for that horribly evil woman.
that chess board what a laugh eh (got to remember to lock that damn cat in another room when i'm playing)
looking forward to teaming up with her again soon if i can find me way back to Tharbad :rolling:
Sauroman taking a stoll to the white city to visit an 'old friend'....
A fighter, the Knights Captain and a Hunter try to stand in his path, not sure they could repel him, but try they would. Although not able to stop him getting there (although a few crafty tricks from the ranger gave him something to think about). He was forced back at the gates finally.
Good fun, was sweating all through it. Not least as by some minor miracle I made all the saves from the 'nastier' spells he was throwing my way heh. Plus, well done to harai the hunter, who's tricks suprised even the white wizard himself I think.
Will make the old white bearded git think twice before trying that walk again :)
*ducks fireball *
I'd like to praise the three characters who actually took time to RP and interact with a pair of characters who (because of the game engine) where really kinda obviously half-orcs.
As the game engine makes a half orc much bigger than anything else, yuo can tell who is one at a glance, and often this means this is the end of any Rp towards them - thankfully this was not the case today.
Two half-orcs were in tharbad in disguise. They were wearing normal clothes and hoods, claimin' to be farmers. Now unfortunately these two orcs - or Farmers Bub and Bob as they claimed to be- aren't very intelligent and ended up pulling holes in their own cover. Howvere despite the fact that due to the game engine graphics they were obviously half-orcs, Vylenthra, Gloisin and Vinduil took the time to RP with them. Questioning them about farming, and picking up on every slip made - they seemed to suspect all was not as Bob and Bub claimed when the two 'farmers' talked of milking pigs and using them to pull ploughs. The two farmers made more and more slips as the conversation went on, but I felt the other three played it superbly, never accusing of anything, but digging big holes into their cover stories. So on behalf of Bub and Bob, two farmers oo ar, good with farms and stuff - a big thankyou to Vylenthra, Gloisin and Vinduil for some great roleplaying.
DM_Olórin
07-01-2005, 22:45
Well that was a good day :D
Due to an unforseen coincidence two parties one good and one evil met and fought in Dunharrow. That encounter sparked of a long piece of adlib adventuring to get one character cured of an "unnatural wounding" sustained in the Paths of the Dead.
The good players victorious at Dunharrow went to bring news of the attempted incursion to Meduseld. While there Eomer suggested that Arathai and Vinduil seek the ranger called Strider, who may have healing skills. They went to the camp and were directed to The Prancing Pony in Bree, Bence said that Strider had "business" there with a "contact". Mr. Butterburr made them welcome (wasted their time oblivious of the fact that Arathai was on his last legs the well meaning buffoon) until the Ranger arrived. Strider sent Vinduil to gather a herb in the marshes for the cure for Arathai. This done he told the pair that the Dunedain may call on their aid in the future.
Meanwhile in Isengard the evil party organise a retalliation against the Rohirrim who had help from the Allies last time. At the behest of Saruman, with two elite Uruks in the vanguard they assault the stronghold with its reinforcements sent by Eomer following the earlier raid. With evidence of victory after a brutal battle the forces of evil return victorious.
Later... The ranger, Strider, gets a tip-off that Uruks had massed in Dunland (and worse heh heh) and leads the allies to slay the foemen... A mayhem of blood, flame and steel ensued with a final battle between the allies and the Uruks and a mighty Olog-hai of Mordor. A gatekeeper from Isengard showed up for a hell of a showdown with Strider. :)
Well RPed by all concerned in each faction... We really appreciate the efforts you all put in... Arathai, Vinduil, Vylenthria, Tyrion, Gloisin, Dove, Shan, Scrill, Rurrk (gud Uruk dat), Belicose, Cullkett, Hugh Beringar, Kha-Khazaldor, Coldbayne's character whose name i bloody well cant recall at this very moment (sorry) and famous Jade Mordigan of the Knights of Gondor whowas present at the initial set to in Dunharrow. Also big thanks to DMs Lorien and Manwe who made it all happen...
Busy day... Knackered now...
Khazadhea
08-01-2005, 01:09
Yep gotto say it has been a wonderfull day with all the rp going around ;) .Been enjoying the whole day though what got me to laugh most was the business about mr Butterman and Strider. Was starting to wonder if i had to die before he told me where Strider could be found :) But then just after i fell down on the floor he casually says that mr Strider is sitting in the next room... :dead:
Have to say thanks to all the dms today and all the players making it the best server to play on right now. Well that's all for tonight.
Arathai
Khazadhea
08-01-2005, 11:31
Gah Butterbeer... Gotto stop writing when I'm half asleep.
Luthianna
08-01-2005, 11:45
Just like to give a big thanks to everybody for making my last week of being lazy great fun. Too many to name really, but if you ever saw Vylenthra, then you're one of them :)
I'm going to get some severe withdrawl symptoms thanks to you lot now for the next few days! :P
Prophet7
09-01-2005, 06:29
I had no clue I missed out on all the earlier fun...stupid Atlantic time difference...But it was great to slay some Uruks with Strider!!
mattimus
09-01-2005, 12:32
Big thanks to everyone involved in the 'incident' in Tharbad that saw Tyrion accussed of Murder by the Watch.
With the screams of the dying commoner still echoing around the Docks.
'There were definatly more watchmen there than on a normal day which was strange' remarked Tyrions companion.
The Watch provided. ahem... sorry found evidence - a lock of elven hair on the body of the victim and several watchmen claimed to have seen the warrior loose his senses a kill the comoner.
(all new gaurds even the Mayor didnt recognise them..)
'Hes been at the Ale again!'
'Six Bells and Tyrion has Murdered again'
These new Watchmen were relentless in there persuit of the accussed.
Witnesses were found and statements were taken.
Was it Tyrion?
Do the real authorities care?
Why is always raining?
And when will the musician in the Greyflood tavern learn a new tune...?
None of these questions were answered, but what great fun. Everyone involved rp very well, Tyrion bushwacked and indignant, and jaded towards the authorities in Tharbad, those 'ahem' ...new watchmen up from Bree, but the biggest thanks of all has to go the DM.
Who coped with all the ensuing chaos caused by three villians very well and of the cuff to boot! And that cant be easy becuase I cant spell properly at the best of times, let alone half cut at midnight and being only one of at least half a dozen sending tells/talking/accusing/bribing etc....
Another fine example of why this is the best server!
Thank you everyone
:E
Prophet7
09-01-2005, 23:02
Thanks alot Mattimus. Your idea was really good, and as soon as I saw all four of you I should have run away knowing that something was up. Before I knew it Tyrion was accused...AGAIN...but luckily the Mayor remembered the 10k I gave him last time and was on my side for once.
What can I say...the DM's have done it again. The Ulruk attack on Dunharrow was well executed with an atmospheric build up of an approaching army.
There was a mix of high and low level characters in the party, but combat was something all could participate in.
Dove thought we were coping quite well with wave after wave of Uruk footsoldiers. The Marshal from Rohan issuing orders to fall back and hold the next barricade...then through the smoke and confusion of battle, the unmistakable form of a wizard dressed in white appeared...Saruman!:eek:
The party fought on...the Rohirrim soldiers fought and fell, axes swung, swords struck shields and arrows and crossbow bolts took flight.
Dark magics filled the air as the white wizard advanced forward, another barrier breached...then as quick as it started silence fell on the field, Saruman stood alone, defiant but confident, Uruks bodies strew about with those of the brave Dunharrow soldiers.
Facing him was the Rohan Marshall and the walking wounded of the defending party. We stood waiting for some evil magics to slay us all in an instant.....
Then Saruman annouced his intention to advance no further and turned around, leaving the battlefield in a blink of an eye.
A sweet victory.. :lips:
Well done to all. I really enjoyed this one!
i fully agree! what pleased me most was being in battle with eomer, marshall of the riddermark himself.
all the evening has been so great. after the battle of dunharrow we had a nice rp-ed tavern-discussion about the fight with gloisin berrethor, dove and yushmar. other pc came and wanted to hear the stories about the battle. very nice indeed!
the following moria-episode was great fun too. as everybody except veld was about level 7, this was very very scary! thanks to everybody involved!
actually this was one of my best days on the server!
sorry yushmar and i just disappeared in the end. we were playing in a LAN so we both were off. there is internet-trouble all over germany today. as i am one of the few cable-users in this country, i thought i wasn't effected by this, but as it seems i am.
see you soon!
dsan1
You jammy buggers, how id love to fight that battle, perhaps the dwarves will have to defend Erebor one day, but usually its wyrms attacking us, not Uruks Ah well, you all said it yourselves, events like these make life worth livin, IC i mean:) good stuff!
Heh, I had to play it carefully with saruman. He was much to powerful for a full on fight with you all, so I made him target the enemy npcs and the occasional player with his lighter damage spells.
Though he did kill one player. Casted an energy drain and took 4 levels off a player which reduce him to 0 :P oops :)
It looked like everyone was really enjoying themselves to me, and other DM's remarked this too. 4 dm's worked onthis event .
Bloddy hell, i thought there was just 1 DM, was my first Dm event of this kind, and first major battle, enjoyed it alot and i didnt die, which is unusual for me in such a battle....*memories of recent trips to moria come back* hehe anyways good show. hope im there for the next one.
- Char - Berethor
PRAISE!
1.
i enjoyed the battle of dunharrow too in spite of my PC crashed about 5 times and my Yűshmar was little bit too weak.
Great atmosphere!
2.
in the prancing pony happened some (great) trouble when lorinol doesnt want to bring out his 'little' cat *g* which was attacked by some dwarves and the trouble began...
great RP time followed then which very nice DM interacting
thanks....
dirklabbe
13-01-2005, 14:22
Yes, the Inn-episode was fun.
Aviel and Lorinol were most foully assaulted by ornery drunken dwarves and abused by a garrulous run-down barkeep. And for what reason? For refusing to turn poor Tojan out of the inn at the abusive grunts of a barkeep and the growled demands of a drunken dwarf.
Tojan (my cat) likes his milk you see. And he has always been welcome in the Prancing Pony. Dwarves or no. And has been served milk by Butterburr himself! On the premisses!
So of course we didn't turn him out when those low-lives took it into their collective heads to make trouble over him!
And true to nature the drunken dwarves resorted to violence. Which we answered in kind, but lost due to us not being prepared for it. The worst thing was that those miscreants maneged to sic everyone on to us, and even to blacken us in the eyes of Butterburr and the Harry Chief Watchman ...
Bah. Drunken Dwarves and weak-minded mean-spirited humans. What could we expect? I have come to gain more first-hand experience of Aviel's earlier predicaments than I had expected.
Many thanks to Yusha for valiantly standing up for us (without becoming embroiled in the conflict).
OOC.
And well done and thanks to the DM for staging the incident :-) Although lest you forget: remaining IC is not the same as "following the script the DM seems to have in mind".
Ye started a fight wi them brothers in the Bree tavern, blimey, ye must be a fine mage to fight them odds. After all tha trade we brung yer kind an oor effort ter learn yer tounge too. Ill be speakin wi mi brothers in Bree, an theyl tell me what happened. Ter all mi brothers oot there -
...nay trust this elf, we had trouble wi thi un before, startin a fight wi some brothers in Moria.
...nay brother be startin nay trouble, we show im wi got manners.
...take nay the actions o this one as the actions o 'is people. We dinne want ter spoil our good relashions wi tha other Elves, and the fine honorable Half Elf Elrond an 'is people o Rivendell.
ps. oor nex load o Khalem Keld be in stock, well be shippin it up ter the pointies soon, we git some fine weavings, dry kindlin an a supply o' tha best cooked steak oor kind dinne mind sellin' (Tha best we eat oor selves o course!).
Im going back to work on monday, which is in germany so im flying out on saturday, but im not going to be around from now on till about Easter, unless i can get easy net access. The reason im telling you this in this thread is simple, I love this server and module, and i cant forget the players, almost all the players i have been in a party with are regulars and seem to enjoy the game as much as i have, i know i'v only been playing for 2 weeks but i havent been anywhere else for them :P, the DM events i have been in were very good, especially when Saruman attack Dunharrow that was fun :) thanks to all you guys who help me out, Elle, Khaz, Cull, Tyrion Alethas, Yaz, Dove, and im sure i can think of more, but anyway its been fun, hope i can get net access in Germany if not proberly see you in Easter, please dont delete my char :)
Berethor
you will at least find one internet-café next to where you live. as you are used to u.k.-living-costs, you won't even find it very expensive i think. there also are some flatrate-deals (mostly dsl) for three months only. (mine is cable: www.cablesurf.de, but that is munich only i think) so don't leave your game at home!
see you
Luthianna
15-01-2005, 01:27
Big thanks to Olórin for running around madly as many many cats :D Don't think I've ever laughed so much, nor do I think Vinduil will forget his cow milking skills too quickly, especially since Vyl likely won't let him ;)
Great fun!
And quite a spooky paths of the dead afterwards, I must say.. Damn that skellie and its disappearing tricks!
But most of all, all hail Vinduil, Royal Milk Maid of Edoras :E *bows*
Animals of all kinds seem to be able to take particular delight in *****ing the ballon of Vinduil's fussiness and vanity! He wont be in a hurry to write any epic songs about milking a cow with an untrapped wind problem in his brand new fancy gear. Great machine at Lagnar's by the way, does it do dry cleaning? As a result of which he is now the laughing stock of Edoras (who knew Captain Hama was a gossip?) except with the local cats of course who will no doubt be keeping an eager watch for him at the gates.
Both to avoid the embarassment of being sniggered at by every stablehand in town and further harassment by the local felines Vinduil will be entering Edoras in heavy disguise for a while, unless that title is made official in which case it might just appeal to his ego enough (joking please don't change his name)!
Thank you very much to Olorin (henceforth known as DM Cow) for playing more or less every living creature in Edoras so well and to Vylenthra (grr the trouble you get Vin into!), Gloisin (don't worry I wont tell the lads), Dove and Arathai for playing along with such good humour. Was great fun, I fell asleep grinning like a Cheshire...NO, don't say that word! ;)
DM_Olórin
15-01-2005, 20:23
*moo*
Good show at the arena today from all. Good fun :D
:) I thoroughly enjoyed the trip to Moria today (despite dying once :dead: )- sending enemy troops after our party and sending a warning via other players. Extra giants were also a nice touch.
Thanks to everyone involved - players and DMs alike!
Argon Balros
19-01-2005, 16:05
thanks kev for helpings us out of moria in time to complete the mission before reset :)
Wonderful to see previous players who left returning. Pleasing also, to see everybody enjoying the new content, including the new xp script, which now benefits parties.
So whats impressed you recently? Make use of this thread!
DMs appear to be much more positive, make use of praise, and are willingly helping. It makes the environment much more inviting and helps one overlook any particular shortcomings.
Nice quest of helping stir an Ent from his slumber. An interesting quest with a balance of action and RP.
thromnombulax
22-01-2005, 05:20
Just a quick word of thanks to DMs tonight/this morning for a fun, different, non-slaughter based "baddie" quest ; it was an excellent experience enjoyed by us all, even if we winged it most of the way. Big thanks chaps.
Cullkett
22-01-2005, 15:28
been waiting for a chance to to get involved in a quest like this i was gutted i had to bail out so soon:( sorry guys.
looking forward to hearing what happened tho
Yes, pitty you had to leave Cull. The baddie infiltration and theft quest was great :D thx to all the DMs for the good time and great quest. Necron would also like to thank the DMs for letting him witness the encounter of the good players with the Uruk parties, and for giving Necron a 5 star view of the carnage :D thx m8s
DM_Olórin
22-01-2005, 17:30
Fun was had by all..... This is a good thing.... :)
I would like to thank all those involved in the Ent saga last night. It was highly enjoyable and well worth missing a good nights sleep over it. Trying to work after about 3.5 hours sleep is always fun :)
I greatly enjoy everything about this place, and hope it continues going from strength to strength.
Well played to all those in the Silverdelve City/mines/Lair. Especially for your dogged persistence vs the Shadow Drake :) Its very dark in there!
Prophet7
23-01-2005, 03:12
Thanks for the help, without it we would have been smoudering corpses!
We thanks the Great Kev for his timely interventions. It made it lots more fun and very interesting.
wyrmwrath
24-01-2005, 05:28
That dragon ...just....isnt ...right!...its not right i tell ya. Its all dark and spooky in he cave and ya can barely see the blasted thing. That doesnt even cover the nasty little supreses this beast has...a fear aura AND...well i wont spoil it for the others...
DM_Olórin
24-01-2005, 12:21
The Morilóki is a much misunderstood and sadly maligned creature.
Shadow Drakes would eat their own young if they were capable of normal reproduction, but thats because they get so much abuse from uncaring "bold" adventurers (and because the Lurker in the Depths has Shadow Eaten them into a blackness on the other side of insanity and writhes inside them). If you were nice to them and sent them chocolates, in time they would become exemplory pillars of the Middle Earth Deep Dark community, patrons of the arts, doers of great philanthropic works, but no...
Its hack, slay, and Tom Bombadil's your uncle... *sigh* will they never understand....
Cullkett
24-01-2005, 13:12
just like to give a big thank you to dm lorien and everyone else involved in last nights subterfuge/assassination quest:)
lots of sneaking and no combat, well not until we killed the ithilian ranger just outside lorien (worth suffering the wrath of the wife for yet more time spent in game heh)
great stuff cheers;p
Luthianna
24-01-2005, 14:26
Hehe, I enjoyed that lots too - just the kind of thing Alyssandra's made for :)
Sorry though guys if she talked too much!
Well I have to say I've been particularly impressed with the people who've taken part in my events of the past week. These were 'The Ents', 'Stealing from the Dunedain', 'The Stolen Sword' and 'Assination/Subterfuge'.
All four of these events ahve been about RP rather than figting and everyone involved has risen to the occasion. I've been particularly impressed by the evil players, who've had to use cunning and disguises a lot and have RP'd this very well.
I will be running more of these story driven quests, and will hopefully soon post some guidelines. One things I will ask here though - if you're in one of these events - as much as possible please stay in one area - especially if you're going to be talking to NPC's - Lord of Dreams I may be, but able to be in two places at once? Not a chance.
Thanks again to everyone who took part great RP all round.
Oh and of course a big thanks to DM_Olorin for being my stooge and all other supporting roles ;)
DM_Olórin
25-01-2005, 04:17
And Stoogie here would like to thank all you guys if I havent already.
____________________________________________________
All the players who player along with the plot twists up at Silverdelve over the last day and a bit, and, well all over the place really, especially down in the shadowed Depths, thanks to all of you. You kept on track and were clearly takin' all the info in and discussing the implications as a party. Nicely done.
The things revealed today are only a taster... The horror is eternally patient... :lurking:
thromnombulax
25-01-2005, 04:18
Loved the evil quests...just what my psychiatrist ordered *twitch* (stage whisper) before i sliced him from navel to throat :)
Also big thanks for this mornings' one too...easy to lose track of time when having so much fun and the screens blurring from laughing (i woke me neighbours up so i did) ;sorry we took so long Olorin heh but it was a most excellent adventure.
DM_Olórin
25-01-2005, 04:20
Thats ok. Look at the bloody time now... This is gettin to be a bad habit.:P
Argon Balros
25-01-2005, 06:32
thanks orlorn for all your work with us down silverdelve it was awesome
Cullkett
25-01-2005, 12:16
Great stuff that evil quest last night, it was quite a surprise when one of Khamuls orcs came all that way to find us i love these sort of things especialy when its totally unexpected :D
Anson and Grosh thanks to you to for going along with me and Khaz and putting up with us bossing you around and getting lost so often heh (call myself a ranger pfff)
great stuff dm lorien and olorin your patience amazes me:P
Hehe and thx for rewarding Necron for his evil stalking of the goodies trip to moria.... was there anybody out there? yes... evil lurked in the dark of moria.
Why ye cheeky feller - ye were followin' us all tha' time?
*Lolinus sharpens his axe*
I would like to send out a massive thanks and well doen to everyone involved in the ' What happened to Elegan' story tonight. This includes the 'evils' who came across the stories path.
This story took over 3 hours to pan out and involved no comabt, and I have to say myself and my regular stooge *winks to Olorin* were well impressed by the level of RP involved.
Againwell done to all and watch these forums for more.
Again well done, and this type of RP with no complaints about lack of fighting and XP is what this server is all about to me.
DM_Olórin
27-01-2005, 03:02
Indeed there was plenty of info to gather and disseminate and you needed to keep your brain on. Well done to those that did.
Thanks for your patience and enthusiasm :P
Argon Balros
27-01-2005, 04:56
big thanks to all involved it really got my brain going
also i'm curently holding the 2handed sword from the dragons attacking erebor event will those present surgest a few ideas what to do with it.
Argon Balros
27-01-2005, 12:41
corection its a double sword
Well you could take that sword and . . .
(Sorry, nothing personal, but if you ask a question like that someone had to answer like this).
Argon Balros
27-01-2005, 18:08
Gloisen wants it if no one minds
Can a Dwarf hold a two bladed sword? Might take off if he tries whirlwind:)
Blackwind
28-01-2005, 13:31
With the weight of yours hed stay firmly on the ground :}
PRAISE to all mates Yűshmar fighted with this evening! it was a pleasue!
Praise to MORIA!
i have seen much of it now.. came till this moroloki(?=this shadow loki)
it is great..better than the old one!!!
A Mori Loki in moria? Hmm, you've just been to Silverdelve mines by the sound of things :P
No i was definetly in moria...probably the name was different :)
Argon Balros
29-01-2005, 19:17
it was the undead dragon i think
Argon Balros
31-01-2005, 02:33
WOW what a great day all the roleplaying was really good so thanks to everyone and thanks to who ever was dming us in moria and a speacial thanks to khaev and kaz
yes thanks for that day i really enjoyed it...
Hey Khaev dont take it personal but Yűshmar really is afraid of you :)
Loved that orc action: orcs disguised as ugly women and bards :)
Enjoyed all the other nice happenings thanks
The orc drag show. We can get Avalyns Villiam Shakesworde to direct :P
The fake guardsman in Tharbad! Great stuff :) Blends in quite well if stood still and people play along and allow themselves to be fooled if they lack the skills to see through it. Its good to see people not simply using a characters name and judging someones identity using that.
Also to (i hope this is spelt right) Merrick Rhyme - Very amusing rhymes :)
Merrick Rhyme *scowls* that was too damn catching that rhyming, even Negnus ended up walking around rhyming.
Mallick Rhyme, my name I say,
twas good to fight the other day,
with a warrior's aid did fight,
a dwarven axe swung with might,
so it seems short in time, when even the dwarf began to rhyme,
when speaking in verse can be quite hard, when mistaken for a Bard!
A bit of a challenge to play this character, but I am getting into it
First time playing a wizard, so please be patient if I seem a little tongue tied.
Dove will still be around I am sure.
Praise and thanks to Frogo Bolger, a young hobbit who really impressed me. I'm pretty sure he's a new player, but his roleplay is fantastic. He helped me flesh out the background of one of my new characters through the interaction with him, and showed most commendable patience and understanding.
We were in a party of 4, but two of us couldn't be bothered to go slowly and walk for me (well, for my character), so they ran off ahead and started doing the quest. I left the party and started talking to Frogo, and only after a while did I realise he'd left the party as well - i.e. he'd decided not to take the free xp of our ex-party members killing goblins, which in itself must have been quite a temptation. We then talked for close to an hour and travelled together for a bit. I don't know if you read the forums, mate, but if you do - I'm really looking forward to seeing you again.
Oh -- and thanks to Lorien for jumping in and giving us a helping hand with the campfire - neither of us could damage it :)
Indeed, I didn't see everything, but I saw enough to know that there was some fine roleplaying from Frogo Bolger here - my congrats also.
hey MCMallick Master of Rhymes!
You are great...i love your rhyming style thanks go on (not get mad :))
*Mallick bows in gratitude*
Though his rhyming is only thought out when others rp along and give him time to think of them.
So I say well done to all he meets, it is not very often he is stuck for something to say, even if it does take a while to think of a verse or two.
My respect to all who put up with him
:rolling:
Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone
Our latest gang of Orcs to join the server. Took a short while to settle in and see what we are all about, but pleasing to hear DMs now saying how well you are all RPing. Looking forward to more :)
I say hurrah!!!!! No one left, the behaviors of offense are gone, and we have more ppl on the server who have adopted our culture/style of play. Please continue shaping tweaking and polishing the new players.
My praises to the DM team.
Once more, I want to express my appreciation of Frogo Bolger, a young hobbit, and quite possibly one of the best role-players on the server -- no offence to any established chars, of course. :)
Walking with him is so much like actually meeting a young inexperienced hobbit that it has opened my eyes to the wonders in the world once again - the terror of walking dead, the beauty of elves, the "mundaneness" of the Shire and Bree... I can only recommend you talk to him if you should meet him. :)
I'd like to take my hat off to Mallick Rhyme. He is a thoroughly original character that must pose a huge challenge to his player which is met and overcome simply brilliantly. I really enjoyed talking to him in Edoras this evening and found the contrast between the sadness of Mallick and the light-heartedness of Leva truly poignant. Very well done!
Luthianna
07-02-2005, 02:05
Big thanks to Urrurz, Vunak & Krak for accompanying me (or rather Alyssandra) on my first time through Saruman's dream quest - Krak for his grumpy orc, Vunak for his slightly hasty one & Urrurz for not doing something nasty in his armour :)
Anyone who's ever met one of my char's knows I'm not exactly one for bashing through things to get a quest done, I like to enjoy myself a little and explore everything - not that I don't enjoy an occasional bash through things, it just has a time and a place - and these guys gave me that space and didn't complain a bit.
Much appreciated guys :) It meant I got to see what a nice quest it is too - whoever thought of that one, thanks & praise to you too! :)
Ze quest is mine :) My personal favourite :)
I wrote all the quests except the Bree Goblins (Avalyn), the Erebor quest (Ghost81, Fasin) and the Silverdelve quest (Fasin, Ghost81)
Cullkett
07-02-2005, 16:58
must say i really like the morek quests in carndum, had some great times with various players there,a good mix of traps,puzles and fighting :D
my favourite quest at the moment is the angmar-quest, also because of the traps and riddles there - but i have not seen half of the good quests yet, not to mention those for evil guys. this server is just so huge!
My rogue enjoyed his company last night :)
Trying to scout ahead in a party of dwarves = bad idea! :P The only tactic is charge :D
No names!
Well over the last few weeks, I can say that the level of roleplay, in my opinion, has increased greatly.
It just seems second nature to me to get into my character as soon as I log in.
I would say that is due to all the good RP ers about on this server
So hats off to you all, and special thanks from Mallick Rhyme.
Tis so nice for strangers greet,
Myself and Leva like to meet,
Dwarves,Humans, Hobbits and Elves,
In dark Moira, casting spells,
when the venture is finished and done,
myself and party victory won,
I thank all those that give me time,
to say my thoughts in versing rhyme
*bows*
Oh I don't know Negnus has at least three tactics there's:
1) CHARGE!!
2) MAD CHARGE!!
and of course
3) CHARGE -EVERYONE DEAD? MORE CHARGING!!
Mind you that may be why he dies from time to time.
*chuckles* Inappropriate generalisations here... Erin's a dwarf. When's the last time he was seen charging at an enemy? Well, ok, so he does it from time to time if he has to protect an even weaker party member... but then he charges at his own pace.. which still makes him look rather stationary. :-)
He's quite happy to leave the proper charging to others... and reminisce about his youth as the battle wages around him. Probably complaining that he would've done it much better.
Actually Negnus and Lolinus have both been known to stand and throw axes (admittedly when there is no way of charging the enemy), but Negnus does also have the tactic 'CHARGE AND PLANT FEET' but he's now used to using it yet as he only just made Dwarven Defender.
Heh, nothing wrong with the good old 'charge' tactic, if its in character. For dwarves, definately something they'd do. Never heard of a patient dwarf myself :)
*falls over backwards in awe of the work that has gone into the shire*
That is amazing chaps. It is far better than I could imagine. And if it is only part finished. I cannot wait to see the whole lot. Keep it up!
Its pretty much complete, Visually. Olorin needs to add the taverns. I will be piling non combat quests and other dialouge in over the next 2 weeks.
Argon Balros
16-02-2005, 22:53
the shire is by far the most visualy stunning area in the game PRAISE ORLORN AND LORIEN FOR A DAM GOOD JOB three cheers for em HIP HIP HURRAY......................HIP HIP HURRAY....................HIP HIP HURRAY :)
Edit - Posted in wrong place - my apologies.
DM_Olórin
17-02-2005, 14:19
Green Dragon interior almost finished, will get it to Kev in the next day or so.
BIG TIP - turn yer grass OFF in the shire. It will look a lot nicer without the blades of 4 foot high sod obscuring almost everything, as most of the details are at ground level :) naturally...
the shire is really awesome! if this is nwn, i wonder what you guys will do with nwn 2! let the people at nwvault know!
http://nwvault.ign.com/community/gameworlds/data/1102518750000.shtml <-----------the place to do it :)
finally another day glued to the keyboard! great fun everybody! i'd like to praise the roleplay of that rohirrim girl of shattered verse (unfortunately i forgot the char's name, i think it was eorhana)!
this "being shy close to paranoia" style was played so well that i was tempted several times to send you a tell to calm you down, then i remembered you were rping!
olorin: grass is called pipeweed in the shire :-)
see you!
Paranoia??? I tell ya, that girl is on her way to becoming a schizo if she aint careful..
Be very interesting to see what that charcter is like by level 12ish.
A very good roleplayer.
Originally posted by dsan1
... i'd like to praise the roleplay of that rohirrim girl of shattered verse (unfortunately i forgot the char's name, i think it was eorhana)! ...
Thanks for your kind compliments, dsan and SNarfel ! Dsan, you were just as good yourself that night... I think John Rhys-Davies will face stiff competition if anyone ever decides to make a sequel/ prequel to LotR (Eru forbid !... such blasphemy!)
Although I have been playing here for only about a week, I think it is long enough to give praise to the server, its builders and players. It is easily the most authentic and faithful middle earth nwn server and I have been to most I think. Right from the start on logging in, the welcoming instructions and the library sets the tone which is nice. I hate downloading hak-paks but in this case... its absolutely worth it with the custom classes. I just hope there'll be a ShieldMaiden of Rohan with the next update ! The abundance of NPC quests, attention to detail and the Shire... no wonder hobbits never leave home... I wouldn't either if I lived there !
And most of the players I have met have been great. It'll be rude to specifically name anyone cos I'll inevitably leave someone out but you know who you are... so here's a big Thanks for making a new player feel most welcome !
Argon Balros
22-02-2005, 15:27
i'd like to thank all those involed in defending/attacking the stoors today
Thanks all players and DM(s) involved :D
At least I learned to be less hasty in collecting treasure... ;)
thromnombulax
23-02-2005, 02:15
Cheers to Lorien for the subtle quest even though some of us forgot by the time we reached destination (remnants of Christmas brandy)
Yes, thanks to the DM(s) and players involved in the Elrond quest with subsequent trip through the bowels of Moria. It was very fun and the atmophere was really marvellous. Those areas are really spooky with some added darkness effects and unexpected attacks :) Thanks a lot!
Cullkett
23-02-2005, 11:25
Thanks for the quest last night it was great fun:D
I just loved stiring up trouble between the dwarfs and the men of lake town and to top it off we got to burn the bearded rats in the own holes :deviant: Mwuhahahahaha
catofnine
23-02-2005, 17:28
Wow...the shire is just awesome. :) Got a look at it last night, and I must say I was blown away by the detail. I love, love, love, love Crickhollow.
Great work guys.
catofnine
Prophet7
23-02-2005, 21:25
Yes, that was the best trip through Eregion I ever got to experience. Even though it was hard on Teclis, it was great knowing that each time you rested you would either be woken up by shadows or have to buff everyone in the middle of a battle. After a while you learn to expect the spawns in certain places, but when they appear from behind you when you least expect it the experience is much more real. Several of our companions had never been there before, and I hope it is a trip to remember. I went through 50+ healing kits on that trip and it was worth it.
Also some of the monsters we fought were great. I hope to see more deep orcs and trolls in the enrichment.
i loved the trip to moria last night! the dm really scared me with his light effects! i also want to praise the rp of strider, richard and tyrion, they were close to panic when darkness fell. sorry i suddenly was gone mates, my internet-connection didn't work anymore all of a sudden last night. fortunately this didn't happen under moria...
thromnombulax
03-03-2005, 22:12
Just a quick thanks to Olorin for spicing up a visit to Dunharrow and Paths of the Dead last night ... nice and unexpected :D
Indeed, I must praise the good work of all the DMs, they keep spicing up things, a bit wherever I travel.
Dsan,we were scared ? Strider is to dumb/brave (please disregard the one you prefer) to fear anything, Richard is too cool headed and Tyrion is just plain "elf cool" all the time.
Now...we really want to know more about the kid from Moria !
Valek-Dark
04-03-2005, 23:00
I have to agree with Shiryu, the DMs work is in fact a great one! I really WAS scared when darkness fell down in the depths of Moria, though I am usually able to keep myself calm at most times.
Fortunately we managed to get out of that situation alive and I have to admit it really was a lot of fun, because quite frankly, I was expecting none of it!
Look forward to knowing more about the "kid from Moria". :D
His name is Therion consarnit, not kid. :P
Ill hopefully sort the quest soon...but ive had a lot of...personal trouble recently...so..it might not be too soon.
Not to worry. Real life is far more important then anything game related. I'm just waiting to see if I was right about the kid, erm.. Therian.
While we wait, i'm sure I can get myself into troubles... wich land should I raid alone this time... ?
:P
Argon Balros
08-03-2005, 21:56
wow the team event in tonights arena rocked big style.
I must agree. On this day, it was my 4h week of play in UTT2 and I must say, It was the finnest day ever. Well done, to all that made this day possible. I know not how many hours I played today, but they were well spent.
Congratulations. :)
thromnombulax
10-03-2005, 19:19
I've briefly tried out a few other supposed "roleplay" servers recently (don't kill my chars.. i had to see for myself) and i reckon most players here and especially the module creators/dev team/dm's are truly remarkable... someone said "stellar level of roleplay" on another thread (maybe wyrmwrath); i dont think this goes far enough, mate!!!!
So (risking sounding like a founding member of the mutual admiration society) i'd like to praise us all but paramountly the creators for providing us all with somewhere where its generally a joy to spend time.
Argon Balros
10-03-2005, 19:35
here here*nods in complete agreement*
*Frain raises his mug to thropblom.o.. oh whatever, nodding in complete agreement ... upon draining it empty he promptly keels over... *:)
this post comes a bit too late...
i want to say thanks you to Validriel, which also posted some nice thoughts in the MERPrC thread!
Curandir was amazed by your Vanyar appearance and me was glad to RP with you..:D
unfortunately we found out that our timezones arent very close :(
as i often work from 8 pm to 6 am i am used to stay alive/awake very long sometimes so i am sure (i hope so) validriel and curandir will meet soon:))
thanks
There has been a good start since we went back online. Its pleasing to see people have read the manual and taken the guidelines and tips given on board :)
Silverleaf
15-03-2005, 20:22
I haven't taken part in any DM quests, but from what I hear they are quite good. I look forward to being a part of one soon. On the note of that, I thought of a really cool idea that could 'spark up' and add effect to the quests.
Movies.
I've had HotU for almost a year now, and just recently I played through the single player campaign. Man, is it ever good!! The scripts are absolutely incredible, and the story is really well thought out. But one of the coolest features are the movie files they have and neato scripts included. If a cool movie script was inserted on entry to a place like Silverdelve which is closed off and a lot of people are present, you could have something like an overview of the enemies, or perhaps a dwarf coming up to you and greeting you. This could also be used in the local vault servers Kev mentioned in a thread awhile ago (by the way, I am really looking forward to those :)). Just an idea, but I think it would be really cool. And if MERP is down some day and you are completely bored w/ nothing to do, try loading up the HotU campaign. It is excellent!
Yes the HOTU campaign is excellent. Id love to use cut scenes, but as far as i can tell, they only work for single characters, not parties :( Maybe there is a way, but i havent any idea.
Silverleaf
16-03-2005, 19:06
I've been to a server (Neversummer I think) which had a whole lot of very well done cut scenes. I might be able to get in touch with one of their scriptors..
Silverleaf
16-03-2005, 19:23
Here's something interesting I found..
EffectCutsceneDominated
EffectCutsceneGhost
EffectCutsceneImmobilize
EffectCutsceneParalyze
*Opens up the SoU campaign*
Let's see...
Damn! Well, the script was too big to post, so I'll just tell you the steps you need to take to find it and look at it.
Open up the nwm folder in your NwN directory and copy the file XP1-Chapter 1.nwm to the modules folder. Next, change the extension of the file from .nwm to .mod. Right-click on the file and select properties, and turn off Read only. Now use the toolset to open up XP1-Chapter 1.mod and go into the Script editor. Find the script q1a_cut1start. This is the script that creates the battle of Drogan slaughtering the kobolds that rush at him.
I've seen cutscenes used before in online worlds, and i've played the expansions multiplayer - the cutscenes only ever work for one player at a time, I've never seen a way around thins.
Its all very well telling us how to find that one but its no good just having a cutsnene of drogan killing kobolds with an igm :P
We'd have to make our own from scratch.
Argon Balros
17-03-2005, 04:11
perhaps a new thread should be started to discuss cutscenes as this is the praise thread.
Prophet7
19-03-2005, 02:38
I would like to praise Richard, Shiryu, and Alexis and the DMs involved in Moria and Erebor tonight. It was a fun night and everyone RPed very well, including the DMs who were there the whole time to add great little touches...a raven messager, every npc dwarf in Erebor saying goodbye, and always spawning monsters behind us to keep us on our toes. Thanks alot!
Savageprayer
19-03-2005, 03:21
Ok I think this is the best place to put this.....I want to thank those who came up with the manual it has been a great help i my understanding the charaters of middle earth. I am a fan of Tolkien but I have not read his works in about 20 years now. then that was the hobbit and the lord of the ring trilogy. So my information on the world and the charaters is very limited, mostly from the movies which I know are not always accurate. :)
Prophet7 - we didnt spawn anything except the wargs :P
Savageprayer - if you want to further increase your knowledge of Tolkien and gain more support in game I direct you towards the player support thread in the PCT forums (Player Content Team) a number of players have put some very interesting and informative pieces in here.
wyrmwrath
19-03-2005, 13:45
LOL...told ya Teclis!
:)
Savageprayer
19-03-2005, 13:50
yes I did find those and have been to several of the site:) alot of information glad it is there. hoping this with help my rping and give my charaters a better tolkien flavor
Valek-Dark
19-03-2005, 15:59
I make Prophet's words my own, I had so much fun yesterday in both Moria and Erebor I managed to forget everything and just enjoy a great event. Too bad there were only four of us, with more help things could have been ever better!
Oh and by the way, if the only thing you spawned were the Wargs remind me NEVER to go near that cave alone! Hell, remind me never to go there with less than 5 or 6 companions! :eek:
I'm starting to hate the darkness... ;)
I'm starting to like the darkness... *extremely evil grin*
Good work, I enjoyed much of last night. Mind, we need an small army to get in there again and return alive...
5-6 experienced goodies is good enough :)
wyrmwrath
19-03-2005, 20:46
Interesting quest indeed, however we were unable to initiate the quest with Gloin ven though Alexis hit 19th llevel. Is it broken or is the PC supposed to be higher level?
Coldbayne
20-03-2005, 01:39
Had a blast with the Underdark below Moria being infested today. Thanks Olorin and anyone else who assisted
Prophet7
20-03-2005, 07:57
I'm really impressed with the Erebor quest now...The monsters spawn when and where you least expect it, so much so that it felt like a totally DM thing. But we went back with a 6 pc strong party and made it all the way through this time. The whole atmosphere of that one is good, almost up there with Moria. Good work!
wyrmwrath
20-03-2005, 07:59
I am sure you will, but please post when its fixed so I may gether the 6 involved and turn in the quest item
please and thank you
Definitely a big thumbs up on the Erebor quest!
:)
Hurray for Avalyn ! I got slaped by Strider ! :D
Hurray, Hurray It has made my day... doh ! (bloody Rhymes!)
Silverleaf
21-03-2005, 08:05
Just a little thank you the DM on yesterday who spiced up the Goblin Raiders quest. I finally got to see a DM possess an NPC! :D No, but really, that was good. The goblin ambush, the lightning effects... They all improved the quest by a *huge* amount. :) The only thing I was looking forward to was returning to Bree, only to find it in ruins lol. Although Mr. Hammerson was believed to be killed in the raid..
Valek-Dark
21-03-2005, 15:15
Bloody Hell that quest in the Dunedain Camp yesterday was unbelievable! You certainly didn't overlook the details and when you started throwing weels and books from the wagon at us I was really impressed! Also, getting to talk to Strider was a real pleasure as well.
Thanks a lot!
love the 'whats goint on in arda thread'
cant believe they invented it
great that's like a suggestion from myself :)
*morez is joking and laughing about himself*
I'd just like to say thanks and well done to the two orcs I travelled with earlier - Mord and somthing beginning with 'G' I think it was. That was very good fun, and it was great to see others roleplaying orcs as unintelligent killing machines - a stereotype maybe - but fairly accurate in a Tolkien setting as they have been bred for war.
As this is one of my first evil characters it made this all the more enjoyable - so I hope to meet some moer 'evils' on Tan's travels and to have some more fun RP.
Eorhona Morwen
28-03-2005, 11:20
Just a quick word of thanks to the player who plays Wulfus. I can't play very often so its nice to meet a friendly player when I do come on occasionally. Had a nice time exploring the caves under the Blue Mountains. And I saved in time before the server restart too ! :)
Cullkett
28-03-2005, 15:42
Have to say a big thanks to the DM involved in taking our party to the pallid dwarve lair in the underdark of Moria.
Totally unexpected and great fun :)
metting the olog-hi was a nice touch, great to see one hulking along smashing all in sight (including party members:P)
Oh and how could i forget the Balrog
Aaaarrrggghh run for your lives!!!
I used the Balrog for a laugh to scare people. Saw you were struggling a bit with the pallids so I had an Olog prisoner in there :P Couldnt help laughing when he hurled that rock and dealt a load of damage to the party in the area of effect :)
Something interesting happened later in Tharbad - perhaps mention this in the 'whats going on' thread.
The new quest for Denethor in Minas Tirith - very good, nice use of atmosphere, toolset, story and enemies - enjoyed it immensely.
On which note a thanks to Alexis, Teclis, Samir, Mallick and Veld who helped Lolinus (and meself) enjoy it so much.
Just want to praise ever improving roleplay. I was on earlier with a couple of other characters and we were doing the hobgoblins in Weathertop. Now I know two of us have done it with different characters but we all played it as if new. We examined the deserted campsite. Discussed how it wasn't long deserted. I searched for tracks but being a monk with low search found none, however the group ranger (with a high search) RP'd finding the tracks, although mentioning it was tricky because of the rain and then tracked them (with a few mistakes) to the Hobgoblins. This kind of roleplaying is what I like to see, people taking notice of their character sheets and skill scores and using this to influence what their characetr can and can't do in game.
I hope to see more of this soon, then I may get to start using my DM xp tokens.
Definately on the up, I think.
Just need to iron out the problems some players have of assuming their character is the all knowing and all skilled. Too many characters with no lore thinking they are artists or walking middle earth encyclopedias :P
DM_Olórin
03-04-2005, 20:33
Indeed If you want to identify an item then do so with skills or potions or whatever means at your disposal... (preferably add skill ranks to your Lore skill)..... But DONT METAGAME IT just cos you have seen this item dropped by that beastie last time you killed it...
grrrr!
*wipes the rabid froth from his beard*
Off topic - sorry...
wyrmwrath
03-04-2005, 22:06
Whats rabit froth...and uhm...why are you wearing it on your head?!
:)
PLEASDONTKILLMEPLEASEDONTKILMEPLEASEDONTKILLME!!!!!
Praise to everybody who keeps the 'greyflood murder' tale roling..
it's so nice to have to be diguised in tharbad and try to do everything that the 'orange man' once will go shopping there without any fear to get mobbed imprisoned....
so as my time is very rare atm before today i was playing the last time when the whole 'joke' happened
thank you for that memorial stone placed in front of the city hall..
Yűshmar was shocked that there were three victims...
i was totally happy to see that nearly everybody still kepps this roling..that's great time for RP (not meant narcisticly)
so
THANK YOU
______________________________________________
btw. i wasnt drunken or bewildered in any means when i posted at the closed nature thread before....
just didnt convertate my humour right i think.. :)
The one outside the city hall is to do with the Tyrion 'murder' issue.
ah excuse me... :) i am narcistic hehe
olorin just told me he put some placeables or something else there after the Yűshmar/Akbar murder issue so i expected that. (maybe was blind before:))
Anyway thanks to everybody who played or will be playing any role in this issue
(maybe there could be another memorial stone or something else? how about a wanted description set at the poste or otherwhere - in general case not only in this prosecution; hey i am not narcistic)
DM_Olórin
04-04-2005, 01:55
the items i placed on the day would be gone after the next reset.
ah excuse me... i am narcistic hehe
Well I wouldn't know, that word doesn't seem to be in the english dictionary, unless you are referring to narcissism - An abnormal love and admiration for oneself.
aye that it was...
thanks for your correction - perhaps i only appear like a drunken fool cause i am writing sometimes instantly in a foreign language :)
@olorin: ysou told me that the items will disappear after the next reset and me fool had to log out and with rare time was only able to return after a week - so i havent seen them ;(
therefor i thought a memorial stone was placed there permanently (is that narcissim?:))
*slaps himself for not posting the whole story at the 'what's going around in arda' post* yet (maybe prophet ang guyror could help me or just kick my a**) - but my time is rare and i am often to shy to write longer stories in English where my anticipation is high... *shaming*
thanks for your patience especially at language issues another time - this server is really international as everybody with a lack of language gets his chance to explain and learn
last but not least a praise to the whole community and its atmosphere
I'd like to mention the main actors in the Yűshmar the Traitor-drama that happened last night (see the What's Going On thread) --- Yűshmar and Akbar.
It's nice to see that players don't get into the mindset of "let's wait for the DMs to entertain us and do events". It actually felt like *they* did an event for *us* -- I came on and was asked if I could help out a little bit -- and I, for one, really enjoyed that -- thanks, guys :)
It's been an eventful day :)
First, a certain guardsman who abused his position to make some extra money.
The animals in Tolfalas acted even more strangely than usual
and there seemed to be much more of them.
Last, but not least, the mission from Denethor,
with all the variations to the mission - what can I say it's been fun :D
Argh, damm you Sam, you beat me to it...
Well done, to all the DMs.
We need more of those "IMPOSSIBLE" Oloogs, to make us fell humble once more. :D
v ^_^
Thanks to DM_Olorine for letting Kira and Gabriella interogate a certain guard:)
Prophet7
06-04-2005, 13:18
Big thanks to Aule for the best DM event I can remember! You made a trip to Tolfalas a lot of fun. Every npc along the way had their own part in the story, and the mad druid took the form of a white tiger and taunted us the whole way. Really good job, too bad only two of us were there to see it.
Hehe... Both Teclis and Amithiewiel did quite admirably, performing to the best of their abilities. :) I hope you realise such big level gaps are usually frowned upon, but I realise there was noone else on the server, so I decided to spice it up a bit. It's quite hard to judge how much to throw in when chars are of such different levels...
Incidentally, that same spiced-up Tolfalas quest was declined by a group of four 16-18-level chars the other day -- they got scared after the first increased lot of animals.. so well done for your bravery, too :)
I'm not too bothered it was only the two of you -- it's much easier to RP with each party member when the party is smaller.. I'd rather do several small-party events than one with a huge party.
RichardW
06-04-2005, 14:54
Want to praise the DMs as well for spicing up what was one of the best quests I've ever been in. I'm talking about the captain's rescue of course, I'm telling you, that part on the bridge when we got surrounded by Olog-Hai AND the champion was almost TOO scary! :D
Would like to praise the rest of the party as well, of course, I think we really acted as a team for most of the quest and that's one of the reasons why we all made it back alive to tell the story.
((Sorry for the change of nick but it's just to let people know who I am in-game since I haven't used the other character for months and probably won't do anytime soon.))
Hehe.. glad you enjoyed it. I was thinking of tossing in two of the big Ologs, but fortunately didn't -- you would have been a bloody pulp in no time ;)
Some good RP from that party...
Also, some brilliant RP from Amithiewiel (and, to some extent, her group -- but they weren't the main characters) in Tharbad, trying to get information about the mayor.
Unfortunately, the attempt was foiled by the Valar themselves (i.e. I crashed rather seriously just as the information was about to be given), and I couldn't get back in time to keep the RP moment. Sorry for that. :)
It's amazing what a few pints of brew and a sexy outfit can get you ;)
Although being as sweet as she is, she's feeling somewhat guilty about using Dorian the Tharbad watchman. Poor guy, he just couldn't help himself :P
Big thanks to DM's for the Bree low level event yesterday, I realy enjoyed it a lot, I dont get to take part in many DM run events and it was realy realy appreciated.
I am going to discuss the event in another thread, but I would just like to say here how much I did actualy enjoy said event as my other post may come across as negative and that is not the intention.
:)
Big praise to all DMs on the events of today (far too many to recall all), especialy Tharbad.
Big thanks for "Strider" for taking both of the "The Amazing Smashing Brothers" on and beating them senseless in front of 2 (perhaps... 3 :P) spectators.
I am glad I finnaly entertained a certain someone. ;)
General big thanks all around! I've never seen people so dedicated to the community. It takes a long time to get to know everyone and their stories, so well done all DMs for doing what you do :D
Special thanks to Aule ;)
Hehe.. Some quality RP tonight, from too many people to list. There was a quiet talk on the hills of the south Tharbad road that I quite enjoyed watching, and a prolonged discussion in the Dunedain camp.. I was particularly amused by some dwarves not believing Shiryu's tales of his visit to Mordor -- can't really blame them, I don't quite believe them myself ;)
Later on, a walk through the shire by two elves... I know there are no quests in those areas yet, but they're beautiful, and it was good to see people making use of them. Hope you enjoyed the little bits of hobbit conversation, guys :)
I'd like to say a big thank you and well done to Tetrol "Bone Crusher", Trista Tanglefoot, Luthianna Tylestra, Coristan and Vellie Marriin - for a m