Live Public Meeting

[DM_Kev]

There will be a live public meeting this Sunday from 5pm.

It will take place in our IRC channel, #wpnwn.

If you do not have IRC or don't know how to join us, take a look at our websites IRC (http://merpuk.wireplay.co.uk/pages/irc.htm) section which will tell you how.

The agenda for this meeting will be posted soon. I hope to see many of you there :)

[barneynibbs]

That's 5pm your time? ;)

[Steve-Law]

Yeah it will be GMT time (it's a UK server :) )

[barneynibbs]

Let's see....if I multiply by the mean of the average of the difference......subtract 4.67......carry the 6.......<counts on his fingers some>.......that would be 12 noon my time. ;) Crap. Probably can't make that. Ah well, maybe next time.

[ghost81]

Unfortunately I may be a little late - or a lot late myself. I have another rehearsal and who knows what time it will finish.

[Steve-Law]

I'll most probably be there, but of course my wife never tells me what we have planned until about ten minutes before we have to leave. (Please tell me its not only me with this problem!)

[SNarfel]

I wont be able to attend, will be in Uni. Apologies to all.

nRe your question Steve... I dont have that prop, rather guests turning up when they shouldnt ;)

[blode]

i may not be able to make it, start another 2 week course on sunday, yes sunday :( i'll be there if i finish early enough though :)

[barneynibbs]

I'll most probably be there, but of course my wife never tells me what we have planned until about ten minutes before we have to leave. (Please tell me its not only me with this problem!)
It's not just you. ;)

[Steve-Law]

Phew, thanks for that :)

[int19h]

Monday 6am (which it will be for me) - I almost certainly won't be there.

[DM_Kev]

Thanks to all those who attended. We had a very good turnout, so we will definately be running more meetings.

We couldn't get an agenda fixed this time as I was just to busy. Next time we will adopt the old method we used - a few big topics and then players will be welcomed to bring up other issues.

All meetings will be posted in the announcements forum whenever we decide to run one.

[Steve-Law]

It might be useful, for those who weren't there (and to be honest those of us who were and completely lost track of what was going on ;) Players were... keen, shall we say :) ) if one of the DMs present would like to summarise the points raised and any action that was decided.

[SNarfel]

Sure... :)

Banking request... DMs agreed to consider and discuss... DMs have decided that this will result in introducing an element which was not in Middle Earth so this is very unlikely to be developed on.

Storage request.... DMs agreed to consider.. DMs are positive about this on the whole and it will be looked in to further.

Ranger tracking.... DMs agreed to consider... No further discussion yet (to my knowledge)

Find party tool.... DMs agreed to consider... No further discussion yet (to my knowledge).

Alignment shift imbalance in mod, in particular concern was expressed that there are no possibilities of reversing chaotic points from opening coffins.... DMs agreed to consider, although over all DM impression was that chaotic points from coffins could be limited by rp.... Early discussions are taking place on making the world more alignment dynamic, so players start off neutral and their actions dictate if they become good/evil or chaotic/lawful etc

Entry in to Evil/Good areas for apposing faction PCs... DMs agreed to look in to this...DMs are agreed that more of the areas currently factioned good or evil could in fact be neutral some of the players concerns may be alleviated by this.

Houses... DMs agreed to consider... DMs looking in to usage of current houses, no plans for more as it is felt that initial purchase of house introduces short term rp boost but long term the houses fall in to disuse.

This is my take on things… lots was being said so entirely possible some of my info is wrong, hope other DMs will correct in such a case. If I have missed anything out (very likely) please post it. :)

[int19h]

Having read the logs of the meeting, allow me to add something to the discussion on alignment specifically.

I've found that it is indeed a major problem especially on the undead evil quest. The problem is fairly simple: some characters can not reasonably voice objections over decisions of the rest of the party due to their subordinate positions. Since, for evils, subordination is much stronger, and questioning the actions of your superior is more often than not out of question (for orcs and goblins lead by humans especially), nor is leaving the party (which would amount to running away / betraying).

This is furthermore rather strange from an RP point of view that neutral characters get the chaotic points. IMO, in this case, the most obvious position for a neutral character is to not loot the tomb himself, but do not stop others from doing so either (consider: why would my NE goblin want to stop the orcs from doing that anyway, alignment-wise? he only cares about himself, that's the point of being NE); yet he gets punished for that.

The fact that it's chaotic points also strikes me as rather strange. Isn't grave-robbing more on the evil side? Furthermore, consider an evil party looting a tomb of their enemies (e.g. Path of the Dead) - why is it in any way 'unlawful'? I would rather expect good-aligned characters engaging in such practices to shift to evil eventually, but evil-aligned ones to practice it on a regular basis as befits their nature.

[DM_Gwaihir]

A few additional points:
Various options for a tracking tool and a find party tool were discussed. It was agreed to see if decent systems can be made to work for these two tools. These will be reconsidered when they are ready to test.
On NPC reactions to alignment, various options are being explored to make this more subtle. Again, these will be reconsidered once the technical side of implementing them has been looked at fully.

[SNarfel]

Quite valid points as far as I can see int19h, DM team will discuss and get back to you. I hardly ever play evil so wouldnt have that perspective. Would you say that looting the coffins is not so much of a problem to over come via rp for good aquests then?

[int19h]

Would you say that looting the coffins is not so much of a problem to over come via rp for good aquests then?
Good-aligned parties are more often founded on mutual cooperation, so if someone starts looting the tomb, voicing the objection IC is not a problem (and of course, there are plenty of reasons for any good character, lawful or not, to object to such a thing), nor is leaving the party if your position does not find support (though I've never seen that happen before).