View Full Version : A Message of Hope from Hog For Xmas, V Important please Read..
I know I have posted this else where, but a lot of ya may miss this important message of love and peace from Hog The Helpfull http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif:
Erm not sure if I understand you there Siefly, to me, WP is and always has been very important. I have made too many friends to mention, in fact I am staying wit h2 of em over new year all the way over in Manchester <shudder>, where I will meet up with at leat 8 other WPers that will turn up. I have a few passons, Hull City (dont, I already know ), my kids, wargaming, beer and online gaming. To me, WP was (and seems to be getting back there) the most brilliant idea ever, good speeds and communities with a wide range of supported games plus some excellent free ones. When I was a CC, I had a brill time, sure there was the odd moaner and hassle but ultimately everyone else seemed to appreciate what we were doing. Apart from WP. They (James and Oscar) have both acknowleged that they have made mistakes over this, and have promised to put it all right. I believe them this time, mainly because despite the odd person like me telling what was wrong, I dont think they believed me. Now with these boards, I think they appreciate the full strength of the mainstreams opinions and have been a little sh****ed by it all. To lose one captain is unfotunate, but to lose at least 4 is well, you know the rest.
I look forward to a time of healing, and getting together and making things better again. Of getting what we have already working better, and adding more new stuff. This will take time, but I am sure it will be achieved, if we ALL work together. As well as all the above, I would also like to see me in a captains position again, doing what I do best. Organising and helping out, and feeding WP info to improve stuff As Mechcommander is unlikely to be on, when you realise about Nit, I offer my services to Populous James hehe what balls eh?
All that remains to say is, keep up the good work WP, you are starting to do thegreat job you started doing a year ago, and I for one am looking to 1999 with relish. Cya all online.
Oh and a vote for Hog for "most Helpfull geezer/chick is a vote for common sense LOL.
That can't be Hog... Looks to me like its one of the WirePlay gang using his alias http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif We all know Hog would never openly praise WirePlay http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Well - on the off chance that it is him - just in a funny mood perhaps - I'd like to agree wholeheartedly... In case anyone isn't aware why we're all so happy check out Uprisings last post on this thread: 195.153.251.44/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000135.html (http://195.153.251.44/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000135.html) ... If all those things happen WirePlay in 1999 will be great fun... What testing have you done for year 2000 though??? hehe http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
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Cheers m'dears
VELVET
Hawkboss
24-12-1998, 11:16
Thanks. Maybe this is the year Wireplay grew up. Got a lot more complicated, a few knocks, a bit stronger and wiser but having made many mistakes and now with some reegrets. All I can tell you is that we arent just a bunch of paid BT lackeys, we really care about this stuff and give many hours of our own time to get it better. We don't know the answers, when we started no-one was doing online games. Maybe we just give in and host Quake servers?
Anyway I felt really good to see this message of hope from Hog (!) and the usual measured response from Velvet. Yes to getting it better together. We now have our own bit of Web and dont forget the link with BTinternet (I could go push these people around a bit if you want :-)). Some great ideas on what we could do, OK we are a bit slow sometimes but a lot of what we have done has been driven by your ideas.
Hows about you give us some New Years resolutions?
Anyway, peace and goodwill to you all (hawkboss seems to be the only one in work today - mind you I did try to get a meeting set up for tomorrow!)
"I felt really good to see this message of hope from Hog (!) and the usual measured response from Velvet" erm Hawky are you saying we are a double act? My Samson to his Delilah? My Dean to his Torvill? My Trotsky to his Stalin? Erm Velvet put that Icepick down....oooooeeeer........... http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Athanateus
24-12-1998, 20:09
Lumy, with messages like this there must be hope for Wireplay!!
Either that or there really is a conspiracy and we have accessed everyones Alias and put gagging orders on everyone else...
Sorry I was reading about Peter Mandleson again!!! :-)
Lets see what we can do in the new year to take us to the next level
Merry Xmas guys
Oscar
Ha-hahaha-hahaha... Seems like I'm the only one committed to being here at 4.30am on Christmas day - but I've only just got back in so please let me off http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Hog - with Christmas here m8 - surely you are Wise to my Morecambe??? Or the one Ronnie to my two??? http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
I'll do you a new years resolution list before the time guys - but James seems to have had the right idea with his last post on the old forums and his captains newsletter... We'll treat that as the resolution for now - but I'm sure we can add some more http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Merry Christmas people...
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Cheers m'dears
VELVET
P.S. Oscar m8 - looks like you still have to check out my smiley face guide - posted a fair way down this thread http://195.153.251.44/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000110.html ... Cheers m8, Merry Christmas...
i think its good that WP are acknowledging areas they are/have been failing in, so i'm hoping for the New Year. i will say though that it has been known in the past for things to have been said and not done, but looking at the Message Boards, this time might be better.
i'm glad to see more Wireplay people actually visiting the boards and talking to us (what happened to the Club Captain one). So many captains as far as i can see have had and still have excellent ideas which i think WP should have really properly noted and executed. Maybe they have approached this the wrong way? Let's just hope that 1999 will prove WP are really listening and that the gamers (with background knowledge) /club captains are the ones that really know what needs doing.
Anyway, hope you're all having a great Christmas all. Here's to the New Year...
Yao *goes back to cursing that damn useless BT Internet/Wireplay business which doesn't work*
New years resolution..........
Spend a load more on advertising! Stick free CD's with the software on, on magazines. Get banners on the net. Get some more DECENT adverts in games mags. I get fed up with having to wait for 30mins on rapid play to get a game going. HOw about some TV ads?
Uprising
26-12-1998, 14:30
Good idea stamper- maye I'll put an ad on the new spacestation that's being built! - sorry to sound cheeky its' just that TV ads cost an arm and a leg.
Yeah, i'd rather they spent the money on us. http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Lots of beer for me, please...
Yao
Athanateus
26-12-1998, 22:37
Does advertising actually encourage people to play Wireplay?
Don't get me wrong I think advertising (especially TV) is great at building awareness, but in my experience (Oh no he's getting technical!!) its not always good value for money.
I think I'd rather find other things to encourage people encourage people to use the system. Have no fear I have plans, but I'd still like to hear your opinions.
Oscar
DaSampla
26-12-1998, 23:09
better tourneys with better prizes?? I used to be in the Forsaken tourny every week until I was told that the <CC> used to fix matches so all the good players played each other in the first round to get rid of them...so they didnt fright off the newbies - gee what a plan :-() and I also thought it was a bit silly playing for a £30 HMV voucher http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif How about playing for a bundle of games or sommin?? Could attract more ppl http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
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PIELOVER99
27-12-1998, 00:33
Hi
to encourage people to use wp u could make it more organised with more tournys prizes make a proper ranking system etc so people no how good they are and who they should and shouldnt play. I must admit to nearly completly giving up on red alert because i get my ass whooped every time. Im sure there are people of the same standard out there but i cant find them and if i didnt have other supported games i would quit wp. I think lots of people quit after the first couple of weeks. Luckily for me i have q2 where u will always find some one of equal standard. Also phone bills frighten people off as it is cheaper on the net and in pc gamer they keep pointing out how wp is the dearest way to play online.
i reckon if u revampt wp in a big way made it simpler and slightly more cheaper and had a massive adverisig campaign u could really make online uk gaming take off.I think wp has so much potential that isnt being used but i guess u need to get there slowly but i would be careful that it dont fail completly.
i read in pcgamer interview explaining that the only reason the rapid play chanel is in use is becuase of the club captains doing the tournys so that could do with some improving or adverising,maybe?
i keep bringing up problems here but i can thin of answers too. Dont suppose u have aanother space on the team do ya coz i like gettinj involved
cya pielover
ps im posting this somewhere else because it dont fit the topic
i fully agree with Oscar here. Advertising for Wireplay has never helped that much nor has it been any good anyway.
The money is better spent on as he says encouraging gamers like better prize money or prizes even. Even improving their service. Personally i think that the 5-30 pounds here and there don't really create much enthusiasm especially when a 80 quid phone bill comes through for a month.
The best advert Wireplay can get is a regular gamer him/herself. Word of mouth carries more weight than a silly futuristic advert with lycra clad people running all over the place. Awful adverts those.
Yao
PIELOVER99
27-12-1998, 20:07
hi again
just saw my dad come in with fhm and it came to me a sexy women will sell any thing.
Maybe even wp? who knows
I'm reluctant to think that either photos of sexy ladies or huge prizes will increase the number of people on WirePlay long-term... Sexy ladies will only encourage the pubescent boys who so often are abussive to other users (especially females) and generally have huge egos that prevent fun game play... Bigger prizes will only lead to contempt as we all know that the there is a big gap between the best of the best on WirePlay and the general masses...
What we need to work on is the whole community spirit... I was reading in someone's thread about the claimed number of people who've used WirePlay - into the 10s of thousands... Now if they've tried it but don't use it anymore there must be a reason... Obviously high phone bills, inability to get a credit card to subscribe, not the right games etc will play their part - but the types of promotion suggested here could also lead to reasons that would drive the majority away...
Seeing as how everyone has decided WirePlay have some money to spend I'd like to suggest we keep the people who log on - not try and get new ones... If any extra money was spent on solving the abusive users problem and in-client developments (such as a message board, better pager and mail, more ways to meet fellow users) then the community spirit will be there to keep people playing... Thats what is important - not having 100s of people logging on shouting about women in lycra or a handful of people growing rich on prize money...
Cheers m'dears
VELVET
P.S. Those client developments:
1. Could we have a link to these message boards or just a simple discussion board within the client???
2. Pagers have been said to be too big... What I find annoying though is that you can't leave a page for someone who is in a game... Can we make them act like proper pagers providing the person we are paging is online???
3. I'd really appreciate a sent items box for my mail - please???
4. Lets build the community... If you are new on and want some people to play a game with - then you should be able to leave your alias and your details on a board... People who think that they'd get on with you can then contact you for a game etc... Just jumping in to a prop with a group of people who know each other but not you can be very daunting if its your first time on the service...
RE: Advertising wireplay
I think you'll find that an awful lot of people don't have a clue what wireplay is. I normally have to go onto the net now to play a decent game of Jedi Knight quickly and the ammount of people that don't know what wireplay is(and yes these people are Brits.)
Yep, they've hgeard about it b ut they dont have a clue what it is.
IMO, the past advertising has been a waste, creating more ill feeling than owt else, remember the "experience sub 100 pings" anyone?? The thing that got me onto WP, was the software on a mag CD. You cant get better exposure than this. Include the current deal you seem to have with Future and PC Zone, and I reckon it all adds upto a pretty good deal for WP in terms of cost. This should be carried on, and as stated above, the biggest thing to create more business, is word of mouth. As an example, by brother in law owns his own fairly large comapny who installs cabling (see, it is computer related http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif and talking to him only yesterday, he stated he gets a better return and more custom from word of mouth rather than the advertising campaign he ran. Yes I know certain campaigns can work, but your talking media saturation here and seriously big bucks, something WP couldnt afford. Witness the debacle that was Home Highway, and its crap ad camapign. If WP have money, they should spend it on improving the service, both cosmetically and fundamentally. We need more servers, which support more games, faster, and more efficiently. Not much to ask for is it? http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
Oh and if you need cabling lemme know, I could do you a deal, photos for an ad campaign? I can do that. I even know some geeky programmers who could sort the client out for ya possibly LOL.
Take care all.
PIELOVER99
28-12-1998, 08:13
Hi velvet
i think u took my coment a bit too seriously there it were only a light harted surgestion!!!! But u say about pubesent boyz (i hope that wernt aimed at me?i think that i can get on with people on wp and enjoy the games) and such alot of wp is younger people i think becuase it is so eazy to use. And when parents get huge phonebills they are likely to stop their kids using it. As for 10000 people over the years that is a good figure its a shame the didnt all stick around. wots the average weekly figures? As one of u sed word of mouth gets people to hear about wp and i myself have got 3 of my m8z to use it and 2 of them will use it regulary i think.
One of the things that scared me off the rapid play channel was the standard of some players is excellent and when playing duke or red alert i find it hard to find someone to have a decent game with although i guess the are people of my standard out there so a good improvement to the rapid play channel would be an indicator to how could u are.
anyway im off shame u didnt take notice of the more serious comments above
cya
piez
PIELOVER99
28-12-1998, 08:13
Hi velvet
i think u took my coment a bit too seriously there it were only a light harted surgestion!!!! But u say about pubesent boyz (i hope that wernt aimed at me?i think that i can get on with people on wp and enjoy the games) and such alot of wp is younger people i think becuase it is so eazy to use. And when parents get huge phonebills they are likely to stop their kids using it. As for 10000 people over the years that is a good figure its a shame the didnt all stick around. wots the average weekly figures? As one of u sed word of mouth gets people to hear about wp and i myself have got 3 of my m8z to use it and 2 of them will use it regulary i think.
One of the things that scared me off the rapid play channel was the standard of some players is excellent and when playing duke or red alert i find it hard to find someone to have a decent game with although i guess the are people of my standard out there so a good improvement to the rapid play channel would be an indicator to how could u are.
anyway im off shame u didnt take notice of the more serious comments above
cya
piez
Sorry PIE - I just wanted to draw a comparison between your suggestion of sexy advertising and YAO's of inflated prizes - both of which IMO wouldn't work...
I wasn't having a go at you but you must admit that a lot of abuse thrown around the service comes from boys in the 14 to 16 age range... Not necessarily their fault - but I don't want to get into a phsycological debate on societies values...
I have read your previous 'serious' comments on this thread - you'll be hard pushed to find a post I haven't read - several times... However - I can't say I agreed with it all but wanted to give you a chance to put your point forward without me disagreing at every step of the way http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
If thats what you want though...
WirePlay should be better organised once the new wireplanner is introduced (sorry if it has been but I haven't been able to get on for a few days to check)... The clubs that exist are well run in the most part and contain ladders and more than generous prize money (even though it is often the same people winning)... It can be disheartening playing against people that are better than you - but I have found these people a good source for hints and tips and far more of a challenge to play against than people that I can easily beat on a good day... I don't think I'd be happy with an overal rating given to me and others as I'm not always consistent in my game playing and don't always try my hardest - often I'm just there for the fun of it... If my results were simply used to grade me I'd get annoyed that I couldn't just play for a laugh, whilst I was eating my tea or smoking a cig as it might affect my ladder postition... I've suggested above that we could have a board to introduce ourselves to others - including details of what games we want to play and of what standard we are - surely this would be better than just labelling people as a particular standard and alienating those who are better or worse than yourself???
WirePlay does have a very high standard of game play - I can find myself average on WirePlay but blo.ody amazing on the Internet - it is only through the close community and the way that people are willing to help each other that this is possible...
WirePlay may be the dearest way to play online - but if you can subscribe (not being able to without a credit card is a gripe of mine) it doesn't make phone bills that much more expensive... However - if you spent as long playing games on the net as you do WirePlay then the phone bills are going to be the same - but you'll have lost the excellent support, choice and community...
You're right that one of the things holding rapid play together is the club captains but you'll still find people playing games that haven't got clubs or people that play them without entering the tournys... The clubs are important and many of us here have suggested strategies to improve them - perhaps we can hear some of your ideas???
Finally I'd like to say that WirePlay would have to do an awful lot wrong to fail (doesn't sound like me does it http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif)... As well as offering the majority games such as Quake II their real strength is in the games that you don't play but some people do... These are the games that have the best communities and cross game cultures - the recent Poker vs Duke is a great example of this and is the sort of thing that should be built on... Advertising is a tricky thing - but say a television advert was made and an extra 1000 people logged on that evening - firstly WirePlay would have trouble coping and secondly we'd all get pis.sed off by the number of people running around without knowing what to do... WirePlay can grow but it does need to be a slow process to retain the positive things I've outlined above...
Thanks for your time - don't take what I've said to heart PIE - its not aimed at disregarding your comments - I'm just selfish in wanting out of WirePlay the best for me... Perhaps what you've suggested is the best for you???
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Cheers m'dears
VELVET
Christ Velvet, even by your standards, thats a long post m8 http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
I would like to take up your point about erm hang on, better scroll down and look, it seems ages ago since I read it.......Oh yer http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
The ladder thing. Personally I think its a daft idea. Would take up valuable server resources and doesnt work in the way you think it would. In an ideal world, it would be a wonderfull idea, like communism http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif but sadly it just doesnt work in the end. Take a look at Westwood, an online place to play Red ALert, you also get ranked, its a world thing too. Right, seems like a good idea, but what happens is this:
1. You challenge someone to a game, they are simialr rating to you, they arent interested because playing you, there is nothing to gain.
2. You try for a friendly against a much higher ranked player. (He wont play for points cos you arent worth it). He creams you. You dont know why you dont know how.
The point I am trying to make is, on WP, its easier to find people who play for fun, you meet em in props, and you meet em in tornys. Look at any clubs webby and you will see rankings, find out who is close to you and ask em to play. Its a lot friendlier trust me. The ladder thing makes it all to personal and takes the fun out of it.
Uprising
29-12-1998, 09:54
This is a really interesting debate, as to what people want, what makes wireplay tick etc. The discussion you guys are having is one that we have on a regualar basis -similarly the points raised about comps are very interesting. From my point of view I agree with most of what has been said with regards to the community versus advertising, that we need to lend good resources to the community and Captains which is very much what we are now doing. As far as prize money is concerned I don't believe that people necessarily play for money (which is nice!) but rather prestige. I think the Club Captains do nothing short of an amazing job but we need to help them ensure that the same group of elite 3 people do not come back and win every week. This therefore needs some sort of automated ranking system and a newbie and experienced tourney structure that gives the weaker/less experienced a chance to win stuff. The obvious problem is how to make sure that people who are very good are not entering newbie tourneys which is difficult under the current system. Furthermore, I understand that for a Captain to run two tourneys a week and to administer it is hard, although I do now offer deputy payment and extra cash rewards for running extra tourneys to Captains so that if they wish to run this they can. Wireplay used to have an API system whereas certain games could return scores automatically and then rank you, but it was fiddly and difficult. Personally I support a basic ladder system such as Cases's ladder which many of you will know of. Yes, it is limited, but I think that we need to develop some kind of trust based automated ladder system so that the Captains at least have the support if an automated system if they want it. The only other issue is how to keep good players off a newbie ladder unless we restrict users to one or two names and made it so that when you click on someone's CV it shows you all of their aliases. Anyhow's this is becoming my longest post, but it is the area that most interests me because everyone wants something different. For my part, in the coming year, I will be pushing for a new and very much improved Club Captain support system, and some kind of ranking/ladder functionality which would work on a trust basis. However ,reading Hog's points it sets me thinking and makes me realise that even a simple ladder system has lots of issues. I welcome any ideas because then when it comes to building something we know its what people want, although I do ask that people suggest something that still has a manual element i.e. someone has to enter the scores be it the ref or the loser.
PIELOVER99
29-12-1998, 10:08
hiya
thanx for taking the time velvet and answering and explaining my comments i can now see why they wouldnt work. Thanx hog for explaining about how ladders work and im now against the idea. And i didnt wanna start an arguement with ya velvet about that issue i brought up so we put that behind us now!
i like the idea about the board to introduce our selves but if it is introduced lets all be honest about our standards!
Any way im not gonna type the first things that come into my head now im gonna think about them first and dont worry i dont take it to heart.
And genrally i think wp is very good with a good comunity and good standard of games players.
Have u ever thought of having a system where wp plays other games organisations on the net in tounys or aint that possible??
im off to check out other threads cysa l8er
piez
ps how do u do faces ???
Okay - just a couple of points for now...
I'm personally happy with most of the ladders produced by the club captains - although once I've got some Legal Crime tournys played you can all have a look at what my idea of a ladder is... (For a sneak preview of the Legal Crime website visit http://www.btinternet.com/~n.a.hardwick/legalcrime/ )... All I can suggest is that WirePlay offer more support on producing ladders - COP's Duke Hall Of Fame is huge - around 250 people ranked and rated... I have some ideas but I'll test them out myself before I start going on about them - look for the thread in a few weeks...
I think that more net related things will be happening... Am I right in thinking that Legal Crime will be able to link to net servers in the not too distant future??? If these things do happen then it can only help WirePlay as clans of people using the service take on the best of the net and win - in style http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif Lets see some more ideas on this...
Cheers m'dears
VELVET
P.S. Thanks PIE for your reply - for your information the faces are achieved thus:
: ) = http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
; ) = http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif
: ( = http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif
: o = http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/redface.gif
: d = :d
Leave out the space, to get the face...
Um - seems that :d (an open mouthed smiley face) don't work - shame - I liked that one...
VELVET, what's all this about "an open mouthed smiley face"? http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/biggrin.gif
K FLINT
Grr - smart arse http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif I'm sure it used to be :d - why isn't it working for me???
: d = :d
: p = :p
: q = :q
: b = :b
Back to some discussion on ladders I think http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
<--- Getting Very Annoyed!!!
: D = http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/biggrin.gif
: P = :P
It always used to be :d http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif...
I've now lost complete faith in my competence and you may never see me again http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif
PIELOVER99
30-12-1998, 21:09
hi
thanx velvet for the faces. Dont think i saw u with the others playin wargasm, maybe im mistaken? How come u guys aint got the real thing cant wp supply u the real thing. If u guys aint got it though i urge u to get it as its awesome and gr8 multyplayer and that goes out to everyone.
Like to see u ave already thought of the idea i put forward of going up against other services in the net! Im sure people would be converted in this way and it is good advertising as it goes straight to your target audience( the online games player) am i right? And as u say the standard of wp is very high so we mite give them a good kicking. After thinking bout this for a while i think the actual games playin shouldnt be taken too seriously or it will be come like international matches at footy or rugby etc. with managers selecting the best player etc. If u catch my drift. Maybe that would be a good idea in its self? I think there should be two levels one for prizes and leagues and the other for people up for a larf.
(I also think the clan scene would spread to other games as well as q an q2)
Im gonna shut up as im not making much sense on this matter any more.ill come back to this. http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/biggrin.gif
i didnt no legal crime was on wp. How bout gangsters?
im off anyway to play the best game on wp at the mo wargasm!!!! (another plug there)buy it!
cya
piez
No probs PIE m8...
I'm liking the sound of this "WirePlay vs The World" idea - coming along nicely... Things like Quakadelica have their merits but I understand that little was done to promote WirePlay (or WirePlay received little promotion http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif)... However - if a group of WirePlay users jumped onto Kali or BW or the Zone or wherever for some pre-arranged matches - and won convincingly it would do wonders for WirePlay being thought of as the best around...
I've always thought that the clan or teamplay element was a little lacking on WirePlay - maybe due to many games inability to support such features... I don't know of it being better or worse anywhere else but it is something which makes for a community feel... There is many a person I've got to know just because they have the same few letters after their alias http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
I'd like to see more competitions organised for clans on WirePlay - preferably on multi-platforms like the Poker vs Duke - except, for example, a Poker, Duke, CM Rally and Red Alert tourny with a top player from each game in each clan... It takes the current situation to the next level - but it isn't reallt something club captains should be organising and clan captains currently have no motivation to do so...
Anyway - think I'm getting a bit too competetive http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif As if I'd make it into one of these super clans anyway http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
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Cheers m'dears
VELVET
PIELOVER99
31-12-1998, 10:52
hi again
nice to see u getting into wp vs the world idea and i think it would be good for the clan scene to spread from the 3d shooters. Im gonna put my ideas for this in wargasm forward next.
Maybe we could do this wp v the world in the year 2000 to mark the millenium and have one big massive tourny against other services on the net over loads of games! I think it would get great publicity in the top magazines and encourage online gaming to those who havent tried it into showing a gr8 community!
I think some one should start a new thread soon as this one is getting huge.
ive got a surgestion for this as well(the forums) can u but the newest messages at the top as i keep having to scroll to the bottom to see wot others have put.
im all out of ides on other matters at the moment
so
cya
piez
DaSampla
31-12-1998, 16:18
Well I'm afraid I'm a Kali man so ya better watch out!! hehe http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
The main games I play on Kali are Forsaken, Descent 3 Demo, SiN, Shogo, Heretic 2, Half Life - there is only one game on Wireplay that I play - Wargasm so I'm ya man if ya want a Wargasm Wireplay crew against the rest of the world http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif
PIELOVER99
31-12-1998, 18:50
Hi
So that were u hog sayin i talk complete crap? Well maybe u are right but that aint gonna shut me up. The only thing im gonna take a dig at his HULL CITY HAHAHA very poor even by my standards http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif Oldham Athletic b4 anyone asks! http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif But im all out of ideas at the moment anyway. As for anything else everyone on here is leaving notes about hacking which is very boring but i guess it needs to be sorted.
Da Sampla i play wargasm but u on the wp or kali side?? U guys on kali good?
anyway i aintgot nout else to say
cya
piez
Yer Pie t'was indeed me http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif Nowt you can say about Hull can possible bother me btw, been a fan too long now so my skin is pretty thick already http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif
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